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Germany Introduces New Travel Restrictions for Men Aged 17-45 Amid Military Reforms (united24media.com)
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cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/61926294

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[+] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'd not call it green-washing, but realistic politics focussed on finding possible majorities through compromises, without insisting on maximum demands, ideologically speaking. This is often interpreted as "greens doing conservative politics". In reality, they are doing the right thing. Just at a slower and less radical rate than some (like me) would like. I accept that. Due to the nature of the system, some progress needs to happen slowly in order to not disrupt it.

    If disruption is your goal however, than yeah, the German Green Party is really bad at that.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    I am surely willing to argue with you, if you are able to stick to facts instead of emotionally perceived truths.

    The Traffic Light coalition had to balance Germany’s pro-Israel stance with growing criticism of Israel’s conduct in Gaza. After an initial phase of strong support (due to Germanys so called "Staatsräson"), the coalition became more critical, slashed arms exports in 2024 compared with 2023, and provided major humanitarian aid to Gaza. Saying they “cheered for genocide” is polemical and mislead. Maybe you should reconsider your news sources.

    Also, nuclear power is not a viable path for Germany. New plants are too expensive, take too long to build, and offer hardly any practical advantage over faster expansion of renewables, grids, and storage. The Greens acted accordingly. You COULD criticize the ban of nuclear power in the first place - but that was the doing of the CDU/SPD, not the Greens.

    I somewhat agree with you regarding taxation. They could have done more. But then again: they were in a coalition with two parties, that are ideologically very different. It's far from precise to measure a partys moral by the actions of a coalition in which they were a junior-partner. Stop dealing in absolutes.

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    Annanela Baerbock literally said it is fine to murder Palestinian children

    Then, I'd like to see a source for her literally saying thid.

    She [..] cheered for genocide.

    For this too, please.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You're the one making the claim, so you should have and provide the sources.

    So I kindly ask you again, as I am genuinely curious.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    So I take it you won't provide sources for these statements of yours?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    So you clearly haven’t made any effort, which basically says that you are discussing in bad faith.

    No. I just won't let extreme accusations stand unquestioned like that. And frankly, why would you get so upset about that? If your accusations are well-founded, where's the problem?

    Yet, you haven't shown where she "cheered for genocide" or "literally said it is fine to murder Palestinian children". If you boldly make these claims, you should have the facts to back them up.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Idk why you're getting downvoted, you speak the truth

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    Alot of politics in Germany revolves around cult like following instead of critical thinking, hence calling greens as green washing would get one down voted. The fact is Green politicians pushed to shut down nuclear energy. They also cheered for genocide, in fact they are complicit in the genocide. And instead of throwing away Annalena Baerbock, she got promoted to UNGA for supporting a genocide. Same reason why half of the holocaust victims are ignored and the remembrance is only limited specific identities. Roma and Sinti für example had to struggle until recently to get their genocide recognised and the first holocaust in Namibia was not recognised until few years ago. Meanwhile 80 billion Euros were sent to the apartheid state in Middle East to oppress people.

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