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Always remember, both sides are just as bad! (thelemmy.club)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/9183854

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[–] 11 points 6 months ago (10 children)

The media isn't talking about general ideas, they're talking about political policy.

And, no, the Democrats don't want healthcare and education for everyone as policy, if you think they do, you haven't been paying attention.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Is it easier for the general population to sway the voting of their democrat representatives towards healthcare and education reform or is it easier to sway the Republican reps? What about primaries, if your rep stubbornly refused to support their constituents desire for healthcare and education, are there democrat candidates that could be more focused on those issues? Are there Republican candidates?

    You kind of need to work with the system you have until you can change it. Either you find the revolution, join it and force the change through violence, or you work in the system and push the reps you have to make it what you want it to be. There are no third party reps and won't be until you switch to a less archaic electoral system which won't happen without revolution or reps that understand it and see the value.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    You kind of need to work with the system you have until you can change it.

    Wow, what a lib take. You sound just like this lib:

    Whilst you lack the strength to do away with bourgeois parliaments and every other type of reactionary institution, you must work within them because it is there that you will still find workers who are duped by the priests and stultified by the conditions of rural life; otherwise you risk turning into nothing but windbags.

    -Vladimir Lenin

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

    Quite true, what's your suggested alternative?

    Sorry I'm editing this and removing the quite true bit. Part of my post does align with Lenin's quote (you'll note I also suggest you need to revolt as alternative, but some people aren't going to want to try that) so my question still stands. But in addition I'd like to ask, what the fuck are you on about? Are you suggesting you think Lenin was a "lib"?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    I completely agree with you. I thought calling Lenin a lib would negate the need for the /s

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Apologies for for missing it, I was distracted by a loud whooshing noise like something was flying past my head ..

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah I was trying to lampoon the lemmings who sincerely believe that participating in elections is fundamentally anti-left. I figured it would be obvious, but to be fair I have seen some particularly counterproductive tankies.

    Satire is truly dead.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, the US gov seems to use The Onion as a manual these days, it desensitises the wider concept of satire because any nonsense could be a real thing.

    It's wild that people think disengaging from the system completely is a solution, particularly when they aren't pursuing the alternatives. They are always light on what the alternatives are beyond starting an actual revolution (noones doing that, and if they are they are doing a shit job and need to start building some momentum and pressing ahead, turnaround on the plan-implement cycle needs to be quick lest it be dismantled by the state before it can get moving) or wallowing in self pity (not going to help).

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Satire is truly dead.

    To be fair tone is hard to read. That said I am not sure our fellow lemms would get it. Some of us here read things to strictly. It reminds me of christian fundies in a way.

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