▲ 1207 ▼ google is a prison and the enemy of FOSS, we really need an alternative (thelemmy.club) submitted 5 months ago* by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world 164 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://chaos.social/@grote/116257002625921666
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children) Graphene has been great for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah but what's it like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) Its like using Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Oh, neat! Can you use the play store? Can you install apks from github? Can you use launchers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can you use banking apps, Google wallet, Google pay (or other NFC payments)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago I could use banking apps yes, there is a resource on the grapheneOS forums. Wallet, pay are not working, iirc. Don't use graphene anymore since i don't have a pixel anymore permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Cool, thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) The only thing that was not working as well for me was GPS, but that was probably my own fault, i maybe misconfigured something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have to configure gps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Seconded. Been rocking GrapheneOS since the Pixel 4 XL (my goat minus the bloated battery issue), the Pixel 6 Pro (which sucked as a phone since it uses Google's shit-tier Tensor modem), then Pixel 8 Pro (which seems to have a better Tensor chip, though still not great in some areas for cell reception). All the banking apps I use work flawlessly on Graphene. Of course, payment/wallet apps won't work, and I've only had two experiences where that bit me in the ass (attending concerts and needing to open a ticket in a wallet app I couldn't even use). The added security features are top notch. Being able to set a duress password definitely helps in case I'm ever in a situation where I'm forced by a pig to unlock my phone, and setting multiple profiles on my phone helps so much with compartmentalization. Would I prefer if Graphene were on a different phone? Fuck yes, which is why as soon as the Motorola partnership produces a phone (with Qualcomm Snapdragon hopefully), I'm jumping the Pixel ship and never looking back. Hoping that's just the beginning for Graphene being ported to other phones, though I feel it's gonna be like pulling teeth with these other phone manufacturers (like FairPhone). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah but what's it like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) Its like using Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Oh, neat! Can you use the play store? Can you install apks from github? Can you use launchers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can you use banking apps, Google wallet, Google pay (or other NFC payments)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago I could use banking apps yes, there is a resource on the grapheneOS forums. Wallet, pay are not working, iirc. Don't use graphene anymore since i don't have a pixel anymore permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Cool, thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) The only thing that was not working as well for me was GPS, but that was probably my own fault, i maybe misconfigured something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have to configure gps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) Its like using Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Oh, neat! Can you use the play store? Can you install apks from github? Can you use launchers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can you use banking apps, Google wallet, Google pay (or other NFC payments)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago I could use banking apps yes, there is a resource on the grapheneOS forums. Wallet, pay are not working, iirc. Don't use graphene anymore since i don't have a pixel anymore permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Cool, thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) The only thing that was not working as well for me was GPS, but that was probably my own fault, i maybe misconfigured something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have to configure gps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Oh, neat! Can you use the play store? Can you install apks from github? Can you use launchers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can you use banking apps, Google wallet, Google pay (or other NFC payments)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago I could use banking apps yes, there is a resource on the grapheneOS forums. Wallet, pay are not working, iirc. Don't use graphene anymore since i don't have a pixel anymore permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Cool, thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) The only thing that was not working as well for me was GPS, but that was probably my own fault, i maybe misconfigured something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have to configure gps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can you use banking apps, Google wallet, Google pay (or other NFC payments)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago I could use banking apps yes, there is a resource on the grapheneOS forums. Wallet, pay are not working, iirc. Don't use graphene anymore since i don't have a pixel anymore permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Cool, thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) The only thing that was not working as well for me was GPS, but that was probably my own fault, i maybe misconfigured something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have to configure gps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can you use banking apps, Google wallet, Google pay (or other NFC payments)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago I could use banking apps yes, there is a resource on the grapheneOS forums. Wallet, pay are not working, iirc. Don't use graphene anymore since i don't have a pixel anymore permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago I could use banking apps yes, there is a resource on the grapheneOS forums. Wallet, pay are not working, iirc. Don't use graphene anymore since i don't have a pixel anymore permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Cool, thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) The only thing that was not working as well for me was GPS, but that was probably my own fault, i maybe misconfigured something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have to configure gps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) The only thing that was not working as well for me was GPS, but that was probably my own fault, i maybe misconfigured something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have to configure gps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have to configure gps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago Thanks for the explanation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Seconded. Been rocking GrapheneOS since the Pixel 4 XL (my goat minus the bloated battery issue), the Pixel 6 Pro (which sucked as a phone since it uses Google's shit-tier Tensor modem), then Pixel 8 Pro (which seems to have a better Tensor chip, though still not great in some areas for cell reception). All the banking apps I use work flawlessly on Graphene. Of course, payment/wallet apps won't work, and I've only had two experiences where that bit me in the ass (attending concerts and needing to open a ticket in a wallet app I couldn't even use). The added security features are top notch. Being able to set a duress password definitely helps in case I'm ever in a situation where I'm forced by a pig to unlock my phone, and setting multiple profiles on my phone helps so much with compartmentalization. Would I prefer if Graphene were on a different phone? Fuck yes, which is why as soon as the Motorola partnership produces a phone (with Qualcomm Snapdragon hopefully), I'm jumping the Pixel ship and never looking back. Hoping that's just the beginning for Graphene being ported to other phones, though I feel it's gonna be like pulling teeth with these other phone manufacturers (like FairPhone). permalink fedilink source parent