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Why shouldn't conservatives claim that we, liberals, are dehumanizing ourselves by supporting trans rights for example? Why?
Because one of them wants to eliminate a class of people. The other just doesn’t want to be around the people who want to eliminate a class of people. They just want to be left to their devices.
They don't think like that. You can't fight radicalization with radicalization.
"They don't think like that. You can't keep claiming 2+2=4 and that the clear sky is blue; you have to meet their hateful delusions halfway!"
No. Your argument is deranged, dishonest nonsense.
You are meeting their hateful delusions by sinking to their level.
90% of them arent even thinking about the actions they're taking with any real depth. Treating the quiet ones the same as the loud ones allows them to sink further and further into their delusions, because honestly they just dont know any better. Yelling in their face about how they're nothing but inhuman monsters isnt going to change their minds. And considering their dominance, if you don't change their minds these problems will continue.
The solution to division isnt more division.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't protect trans rights or anything like that. I'm just saying that dehumanizing around 30% of the country is a bad idea and is completely counterproductive.
As another reply said, they're dehumanizing themselves. Disagreeing on policy is one thing, but when one side is burning books and closing research labs and treating a charlatan's blatant lies as the Gospel truth because their worldview is fundamentally incompatible with factual reality, there's no reasoning with that. Debate doesn't fucking work at that point; you need a cult deprogramming!
They do.
But it's not a Republican vs Democrat thing. It's empathy vs not. As a social species, I don't think it's a stretch to say that those without empathy are fundamentally broken and need fixing. You can't have a functioning society with no empathy. And we benefit from a functioning society.
But there is a fix. Empathy can be learned. It's not magic, it's practice. And those who refuse to learn shouldn't be welcome in society.
Fuck it. I'm no longer responding to this thread. If you can't understand that dehumanizing them and attacking their ideals is bad (politically bad) I don't have anything else to say.
We need to reason with them, not fight. Everyone believes what they're doing is good, if you attack that, you're the bad one and they won't listen to you anymore.
You just think I'm the other guy. I didn't say dehumanize. I said they're not suitable for society and need to be fixed.
They're still human. They're just douchebags. And we don't have to tolerate those.
You can't reason with someone who wants you dead. Simple as that.
I am not part of the discussion but you answered to a completely civil argument. People not agreeing with you is not a bad thing. If you think you are right, make counter points. Otherwise try to guess why their views differ and over think your own opinion. It is a good thing to get convinced by somebody else's opinion, both win in that case.
Your logic results in deranged people killing and abusing non deranged people "who just want to reason".
You cannot reason with zealots who want you dead. This is a suicidal mindset that you have. Why not just give up and let the bad guys win?
Because factual reality exists.