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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

You insisted the the US needed to support genocide. You got your way. It cost the Democrats the presidency, because a Democrat could never win being pro genocide.

You won. You got your way. This was the outcome you insisted on.

[-] HorreC@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

You are arguing there was a candidate that wasent progenocide. Could you provide for the class who this person was?

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Jill Stein?

Honestly I don't actually know for sure, just guessing.

[-] HorreC@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Not even american, Just you guys have made your politics the worlds problem, so I feel like I am sort of justified in speaking on these issues.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

No I'm not. I'm making the point that neither candidate was anti-genocide, and that Democrats lost because they thought they could bully their voters into voting for a genocide. Someguy3 things voters are like a horse you can just buggy whip into doing what you want, and I don't agree with that.

I'm probably the most vocal, most persistent, and most consistent voice on lemmy who has been saying exactly what the recent news around the DNC 2024 post-mortem is also saying: Democrats could not win as a pro genocide party.

You can go through this comment thread and find my main points: https://lemmy.world/post/43468718?sort=Top

Here's me making that argument 2 years ago: https://lemmy.world/post/18568674?scrollToComments=true

I mean look at this banger:

I argue, and have argued, and will continue to argue, that you can-not move electorates over the course of an election cycle. Elections are 4-12 month cycles. That's not enough time to change the hearts and minds of millions of individual people. I think its electorally illiterate to blame voters for how they voted. Your job in politics is to understand what voters think and feel, and why they think and feel what they do, and adjust your campaign and strategy to operate with in the real conditions of an electorate.

Any one trying to paint the election as a binary, or trying to operate their rhetoric on individual commenters or voters, instead of the actual person who could make the necessary changes (eg, Biden or Harris), they are apologists for genocide, and at this point, I consider them to be as pro-fascist as MAGA.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

The candidates job isn't to teach you that allowing Hitler to come to power is a worst case scenario nor is it their fault if you fail to realize that. The candidate got one vote just like you

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The oil companies spent a generation teaching you that it was individual people making individually better choices. They did this to keep the same old status quo going while you blame your friends and neighbors for not recycling hard enough.

And just like before, the propaganda woks on you, where you blame those who control almost nothing in the electoral system, and give those who have all the power in the electoral system a pass.

History isn't going to remember your insistence, that "voters" just needed to do better, kindly. You were wrong about how elections work, and it handed the nation to the fascists

[-] HorreC@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

I think a bunch of those voters have shown "dont care who just vote blue" has run its course, they will no longer prop up the centrists candidates and they want a proper left. And yes they think this sucks,but they sort of saw the party going to be this in 30 years (as we know Regan would have loved to have the democrats you currently have) So let the orange man win and maybe switch there base into more conscious voters or be the ones who vote blue no matter who. But giving those that have a place at the table that have been running right hasnt worked, and when the other team is up to bat, its still shit on the common people and corpo money wins. Until the law makers start doing something about that then they will find new people/parties/ (worst of all) not voting (because by checking out you are giving them [could be either party here] what they want, they can show numbers back them [not really with the GOP, because if america truly was one person one vote as they say, they would do away with the electoral collage and they could really have the people vote.).

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago
[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago

I don't expect strong reading comprehension from pro-genocide apologists who did the work to get fascists elected. If a scrape a penny and go look at your comment history out, help cuz out, what will I find?

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