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In the first part of your edit, you explain why there's no such thing as unskilled labor.
I think the confusion here is that you are saying "unskilled" when you mean " skills that have been picked up without education", or "skills I assume can be picked up quickly"
Find me someone from an ancient civilization and see how well they vacuum without any training.
nah, I just think it's dumb to say "but everything is a skill" like it's some gotcha
sweeping is a skill you can learn very quickly. it's not complicated. you don't need special training to do it. the reason you can't be effective on day one is that you need to learn the processes of the job, not because you need to learn the skill. you can be effective at sweeping, but not effective in your role because somebody is expending time and effort to teach you the processes. not because you have to learn how to sweep.
The purpose is not "some gotcha". The purpose is that, by calling it unskilled labor you devalue both the role and the person doing it. Then it's easy to justify not paying them a living wage, not respecting them, and treating them as lesser.
Plus, you literally said "sweeping is a skill". So it's not unskilled. It's a quickly learned skill. Let's not be both demeaning and inaccurate.
right, so it's really just arguing over the definition, and thus each side is having a different argument
however you want to call it, sweeping is not a high skill task.