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What I think they meant was that people here only think about the genocide and thus declare the perpetrators evil (which they are) and the victims the good guys (hamas are not).
One side's atrocities don't justify the other side's. Excusing your own group's actions because they're the good guys is far right thinking.
In reality there's more factors to this than just the genocide, and both hamas and israel are the bad guys in their own way. One is just worse than the other, but that doesn't make the other good.
In this particular conflict, Hamas very much are the good guys (if we have to think in such childish terms) in the same way that the allies were the good guys in World War 2 despite the fact they were mostly genocidal empires themselves. Hell, Hamas are far less evil than almost every western government, especially the German one, because they aren't actively supporting mass genocide.
You condemn all groups actually fighting against Isreals genocide. That is just supporting the Genocide with extra steps
Correct.
You're wrong, Hamas are in fact "the good guys" in this conflict. The resistance to the genocidal settler state are good even if they don't measure up to whatever arbitrary standard of perfection you have in mind.
Bullshit framing designed to try to equate between the invading settler state (with overwhelming firepower) and the (often barely adult) native resistance just trying to survive and protect their homes.
"Hemming and hawing over genocide is disgusting."
Wow. Well, thanks for openly admitting that one.
How is that any different to saying the allies were the good guys in world war 2?
No problem. I don't feel the need to hide my opinions.
What do you want, .ml tankies are what .ml tankies are.
Please continue to call us "tankies" for saying things like "resistance to genocide is good". I'm not joking, you're doing free propaganda for us "tankies".
I sure will, but it isn't the swag you think it is lol.
Tankie is when you support resistance to genocide
The world will be better when humans will be able to escape this manichean thinking.
Resistance to genocide is the correct position to take.
100% agree and that's not what Hamas is trying to do or I miss the part where they protect the palestinians in their actions
"I don't condemn resistance to genocide, I just happen to condemn every single group that engages in resistance to genocide"
Hamas is the main force of the Palestinian resistance, a coalition force actively fighting against genocide.
"I proudly stand for neither the genocidal maniacs or for the armed resistance against them". Most enlightened centrist
"Slaughtering civilians and shielding behind the people victim of genocide is what I call resistance against genocide". Most enlightened extremist
Lol, imagine pretending to be anti-genocide while repeating the "human shields" Hasbara.
Zionist scum
"Hemming and hawing over genocide is disgusting."
Copy pasting this shit doesn't make you look smarter
I apologize, you're not hemming and hawing over genocide. You're supporting it to "look smarter".
Let's agree to disagree there then. I wasn't planning to convince you after all.
We can agree that you oppose resistance to Genocide
I don't agree on that claim, no.
No, you just want to dictate from your comfortable desk how the resistance to an 80-year-long occupation and genocide should look like.
That's not what I said that in response to. This doesn't mean I oppose resistance to genocide, this means I have expectations towards resistance groups. Not the same position. Opposing the form doesn't mean I oppose the concept.
A sentence so steeped in colonial attitudes it's practically tea.
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Exactly my point, you think you have any moral right to decide in what form and shape the local resistance against Zionism has to take shape, and otherwise it doesnt get your support.
There are material reasons why Hamas is structured the way it is, and you may not like them or share all their goals, but their primary goal is the liberation of Palestine from Zionism and you should support them in that
If that's your point, you replied to the wrong comment of mine earlier.
When I said "I don't agree on that claim, no." I was specifically referring to the claim that I oppose resistance to genocide, period. When in reality I'm opposing the form that resistance is taking, not resistance itself. That's why I said I don't agree with the claim made.
You don't seem to argue with that fact, you're just arguing about my actual position. Which isn't what I was denying.
So, you do support Hamas?
You're really not arguing in good faith, are you? Not supporting hamas doesn't mean I'm not in favor of resistance against genocide.
But just to clear this up once more:
So no, I do not support Hamas. But yes, I do support Palestinian resistance in theory.
"I don't oppose resistance against genocide, I just coincidentally oppose all groups resisting genocide"
Look, you're free to keep replying, but I'm not going to further talk here. I'm just writing this last comment to clarify that, so you can stop wasting your time. I realize that you're not arguing in good faith, so this is just going to go on endlessly otherwise.
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
Wow, we have a contender for most The Most Western Sentence of all time
They really managed to do worse than their earlier "This doesn’t mean I oppose resistance to genocide, this means I have expectations towards resistance groups."
So my point was correct, Hamas is not morally pure enough for your standards, and you don't support resistance against genocide in practice, which is what matters because that's the actually existing resistance against genocide.
Hamas is supposed to be an enlightened leftist organization despite their members being executed, starved and deprived of the most basic resources by the people who threw them out of the lands they used to inhabit. Maybe, just maybe, there are material reasons caused by Israel that make Hamas not conform to your (or my) theoretical ideals?
What I don't agree with is that wording.
I don't support this specific form of resistance against genocide in practice. What you wrote there most literally means I don't support resistance against genocide in practice in general, which is what I can't agree with. If we're just talking about Hamas specifically, or the shape that resistance has taken in this genocide specifically, then I agree with the statement. But the way it's written here and was written before, I can't agree with it, it's too broadly worded and easily misconstrued when taken out of context.
Ok, so it's not that you oppose resistance to all genocides, you just oppose resistance to the Palestinian genocide.
Oh my fucking god, they just admitted it.
This is just linguistic gymnastics, though. Hamas, and the broader Palestinian resistance, is the resistance to genocide. There isn't another, and better groups like the PFLP all work with Hamas, because they are fighting genocide and extermination.
It is true though