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Avocado toast is out. Rotisserie chicken is in.
(thelemmy.club)
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because it's premade food.
fast food prices used to be similar, was that a healthy smart way to get calories? a burger and fries from mcdonalds used to be 3 bucks or so. for a lot of struggling people, it certainly was a standard option until recently and the one by me is still full of housing project kids everyday.
When the pre-made food is cheaper than uncooked food, how is it a luxury?
You think people should pay more for food, then bitch about people spending too much?
Get the hell out of here.
Also, from your previous comment:
I literally worked at the Deli in a wal mart in small town Ontario 20 years ago when I was in my late teens cooking the rotisserie chicken you're bitching about didn't exist.
You're either trolling everyone here, or a completely disconnected moron.
Lol you're changing the topic because you know he's right. If someone else cooks my meal for me, regardless of price, that's a luxury. If it costs $1 or $100, the act of another person preparing and cooking my food instead of having to do it myself is something I would consider a luxury. If it was free I would still consider the act of another person cooking my food for me a luxury. Its not about price or how much the ingredients cost separately.
Because if you don't consider having someone else make your food a luxury, what is it? Normal? Expected? Do you not cook your own food? It's wild you just call "troll" cuz he has a different opinion than you. If anything you and the people shadow boxing his comments are the trolls.
They've been changing the topic to try and shoehorn their own elitist opinion into something else. The entire topic is about cost. Not luxuries or people serving others. It's about money and how much things cost. The reason @TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world is being downvoted to hell and back is because they're missing the point from the beginning. If money is tight, why should people be forced to buy uncooked food and ingredients to make food at home, spend more money to do it, just to make some uptight person on Lemmy feel better about themselves?
If the already cooked chicken is cheaper, and money is tight for things like bills and electricity, buy the fucking cooked chicken. The only person who brought "luxury" into this was that idiot who completely missed the entire point of the conversation and the entire point of the post and had to stick his elitest fucking nose into everything.
Yes, I do cook my own food. I make dinner at home all the time. My partner cooks as well. Because we can afford dropping $20 on a club pack of pork chops, wrap a bunch in our vac sealer, and stick them in the freezer for future use. We have the means in order to store ingredients and have two freezers in our farm house and own a 14 acre property.
But we're the exception, not the rule in today's day and age. And guess what? I'll still order pizza and come home with that. Or get a rotisserie chicken because work sucked and I don't feel like cooking. And the fact that people like you and Tittyfrog genuinely care so fucking much about how other people spend their money and what they eat is remarkably pathetic.
And because I know they're going to read this comment too, to quote something they said...
When you are struggling to literally feel yourself, your kids, pay rent, fill your gas tank, and make ends meet paycheque to paycheque, you don't have the time or the energy to give a shit where the supply chain comes from. Some people are literally just trying to survive, and you talking down to people like that make you a fucking asshole.
Edit: Words.
Thanks for not really addressing anything I said and just jumping right back into your own stuff. That was cool. It let me know you didn't really read what I said, think about it, and formulate a response. Great stuff. Oh and you should scroll back up to the first comment in this chain and see that the original poster called it a luxury first, so I guess you didn't read that either. TittyFrog hasn't been the one calling people idiot, or pathetic, or asshole, YOU have been.
Maybe take a step back and read what I'm trying to say. We are talking about the idea of if hot and ready to eat food is a luxury item. Not food in general or how much it costs (which you keep bringing up when I'm telling you it's not about the cost). I don't really care how you spend your money lol, I wish my tax dollars could go towards providing food, water, and shelter to everyone instead of the military industrial complex and corporations. Most people are just trying to survive, you and me both and everyone else in this chain I'm sure.
Thanks. Yeah that's part of the point I'm trying to make.
But people don't see the world that way... they see premade food as some sort of normal thing. And ironically all the nutrionists and public health people straight up tell us that premade stuff is unhealthy and problematic in both terms of nutrition and cost. Cheap food is always full of additives and shitty stuff. Natural foods are not, but they cost more. Better food production practices and regulations, cost more, etc.
But people just want see the sticker price in front of their face and ignore all the things that go into that price and don't want to talk about them because acknowledging how the supply system works is 'trolling' because it makes them uncomfortable. The existence of $6 ready to eat roasters is seem some inherently good and worthy thing... but it isn't when you start to ask why they cost so little.
We increasingly live in this weird world were the notion of cooking your own healthy food is some form of class oppression and privileged or something. When what it does is give you way more control over what goes into your body and typically you eat less.
Because that's not what the conversation is about, and you know it.
If all you can afford for dinner is a supermarket roast chicken, you're not in a position to give a single iota of a fuck about why it's so cheap.
I can afford Michelin star roasted chickens.
I guess that means I am not allowed to buy groceries or something? Or care and have any interest in how the food supply works? Who is going to stop me from reading books and articles about nutrition and economics and farm policy?
...what? That's literally the opposite of my point.
You're in the position where you can be intentional with your food choices. Good for you.
People buying pre-cooked chickens because that's all they can afford aren't.
Most people buying pre cooked chickens aren't doing so because it's their only option. They are doing so because it's convenient and they are hood winked by the loss leader pricing into paying more for less.
If loss leader pricing didn't work companies wouldn't do it.
How is that relevant? The article doesn't say "Gen Z and millennials are getting lured in by pre-cooked chickens and then duped into buying other stuff they don't need".
you didn't answer the question
I did, but you're being a typical lemmy troll who refuses to acknowledge any counter point to your simplified narrative that lacks any context because you want to bite the ragebait that makes you feel morally superior for doing so.
the article is designed to make you upset and troll you by going at your bias that premade grocery store chickens are some sort of nutritional necessity that is liberating people from the doldrums of their suffering at the evils of capitalism... even though it the chickens being sold like this is really an evil of capitalism itself.
you can't have your pre-made chicken rage and eat it too!
In fairness, like the troll you accuse everyone else of being, you have zero proof for your claim that these chickens have somehow been modified to be shittier for you, and that's why they're cheaper.
Sorry you apparently grew up in bumfuck nowhere, pal. The Hannafords in the sticks that I worked at in high school, more than 20 years ago, had plenty of rotisserie chickens, and had them long before I started working there.
You've gone and invented a massive conspiracy that ignores a simple reality. Offering rotisserie chickens as a loss leader is a simple and effective way to a) move whole chickens with minor blemishes and b) get people in the store with the promise of a cheap bird that almost always required you head to the back of the store, where they could count on you seeing several things "I may as well get while I'm here" to make up for whatever loss they sell the rotisserie chickens here.
I've worked in several major grocery stores in different regions, and never encountered any evidence of this nonsense you're so indignant people won't swallow wholeheartedly.
tl;dr: Show some proof or shut the fuck up, you muppet. Your own screeds do not count as proof, let's see some external links.
whatever proof i gave you you'd deny. you can google it. these chickens are overwhelmingly prepared with injections of salt, fat and butter and plenty of outlets have tested them and they have massive levels of sodium, saturated fat, and other stuff like preservatives and chemicals that makes them processed if not ultra processed foods.
it's not a conspiracy, it's how our food supply works.
Hannafords is small chain, we're talking about Costco and Walmart in this thread. Perhaps their chickens are better. I have been to a few of them in my area and they are an expensive store with more premium products. Whole foods has them too and theirs aren't cheap and are probably more natural.
Ah, yes, a tiny, insignificant chain, only backed by the supply chain of its parent company which is one of the largest food retailers in the entire US with it's various regional rebadges of subsidiaries.
You're talking out of your ass and you know it, while grasping at straws and completely ignoring the fact that criticism in the OP is not that they are spending money on something people like you consider a luxury, but they're framing it as a splurge to purchase a whole chicken at the lowest cost available in most stores for an entire chicken.
You really had the obvious option available to complain about this whole time, if you wanted to talk about people in debt splurging on a luxury, you could have just bitched and moaned about them springing for the probiotic juices mentioned in the OP. Instead, you're here arguing against a point nobody is making about the quality of the chicken because you've got a bug up your ass that someone else might eat a chicken you disapprove of.
Go get a hobby.
No, I'm talking out of a personal interest in economics and the food supply. You are just the one talking our your ass and thinking your personal chicken prep experience from 10-20 years ago is relevant to the market today.
no, what I'm asking is how a ready to eat food product that is cheaper than the raw materials alternative is considered a luxury in this context
I understand that ready to eat food itself is somewhat of a luxury, but that is not what is being discussed - what is being discussed is the cost of the food.
No no, you see when you pay any amount beyond what is absolutely necessary to survive then you are spoiled by luxury. /S
is fast food a luxury or a necessity?
this is a version of fast food. that's why it's a luxury.
it's also a factor of true cost vs the fact these are sold at a loss and understanding the psychology therein that gets people to buy more than they otherwise would.
no, what I'm asking is how a ready to eat food product that is cheaper than the raw materials alternative is considered a luxury in this context
I understand that ready to eat food itself is somewhat of a luxury, but that is not what is being discussed - what is being discussed is the cost of the food.