He somehow seems to think, still, that he can shape the Democrats. "If I thought there was a viable 3rd party do you think I would be voting for them? Fuck no" he says, after scolding someone in his chat, calling them an ultra, for calling him out for his continued connection to the democrats.
But lets think about this for a second...
how the fuck
do you build
a fucking party
do you do it by voting for, another party
do you do it by telling people to vote for another party
or do you do it by building A FUCKING WORKING CLASS PARTY
LIKE FUCKING LENIN SAID
I don't really understand what Hasan thinks these Democrats are supposed to "DO" in this situation. "They're not DOING it!" he yells. What is "IT"? Go against their class interests, defy the fundamental laws of capital and somehow break free of their social relations through pure force of will? His proximity to the Democratic Party is what breeds this weird fucking obsession he has.
"These guys are mad because they talk to ME and not their Pedo sex cult leader, that's why they're mad". What if they didn't talk to you, though? What if tomorrow they just stopped talking to you at all? What if the only reason they talk to you AT ALL is that they know that you have a huge fucking audience, and you are actually effective at moving people to the left? So instead, they give you cookies and treats, they give you access and interviews, they let you into the DNC, they give you access to candidates, like Zoran.
I really do think at this point, that he is being catfished by the Democratic Party. That they understand that he is an effective communicator, and they have somehow convinced him that if he just keeps at it, he can one day kick that football for real.
I really don't think the democrats cares about Hasan at all. I think a few 'progressive' candidates ~~(to my knowledge he hasn't even gotten to speak to Zoran)~~ have gotten buddy buddy with Hasan as part of their strategy, but that's it. I also think he has close to zero actual pull on the national level. Something he agrees with.
I'll be honest, I do not think he is ill-intentioned. His goal seems to be to try to get the democrats to not be total shit, and try to springboard that to class consciousness. Now that sounds like it wouldn't work at all. It sounds foolish to try. But what other options are there for a mass awaking like that besides accelerationism?
Do I think it will work? Nope. But I don't think he is deluded in his position in the wider political conversation or the opinion of the democrats either.
Are you single handedly bringing back forum signatures? Holy shit you're the coolest person in the fediverse.
I think Edie started it with the "suspected of being a cat" bit
I had a forum signature I maintained on here like two years ago that told people to join
but it was too annoying to keep up.
We have a few users with signatures. I think it was mainly started by @Edie@hexbear.net/@edie@lemmy.encryptionin.space.
This is true, but I will say I was not directly inspired by Edie, but rather I was thinking back to 7DeadlyFetishes a few days ago. Posting with signatures has a long tradition here
OK, but please try not to defend nazi concentration camp guards.
Say what?
https://hexbear.net/comment/1857887
Of course he's spoken with Zohran, which is part of why Cuomo decided to make "Zohran won't condemn Hasan 'America Deserved 9/11' Piker" an absurdly prominent part of the latter stretch of his campaign.
Ah, I must've missed that, thank you
It sounds like to me you're equating building a working class party with accelerationism. Accelerationism is a term I don't fully agree with as a cohesive framework or ideology. Are the Greens accelerationists in the American context? Are Green voters Accelerationists by extension?
I know that's not what you're saying. It just sounds that way. Accelerationism is the fools gold of ideological perspectives. It ignores the interconnected realities of monopoly capital and imperialism. You can only sharpen the contradictions so far before forces outside your sphere of influence make corrective measures. For example, the Chinese economy can't collapse for the same reason why the American economy can't. They are deeply interconnected. The worst you get is a slow controlled descent, a managed decline. Look at how often Trump dipped the stock market with rhetoric and tariffs only to back off and now effectively "stabilize" with much effort from China and our own capitalists.
So I'm not willing to accept this idea that you engage with the Democrats or you don't and accept your fate as an "accelerationist". The PSL is right there, the run candidates, they're running more this year then I've seen. Why pretend you can move a mountain? When instead you could be helping build one? By his own admission he's been doing this for 12 years. He's seen Sanders betrayed. AOC become the AOCapitulator running cover for Zionists and the rule of law. The Democrats aid a genocide and turn to the right, fail to do anything while aiding fascists in terrorizing and killing people within it's own borders. All this and he still thinks entryism is the right path?
If that's not delusion I guess I don't know what is.
The problem is the idea of class is completely alien to the average american psyche. One cannot build without foundation. Hasan is trying to use the democrats as a mass trigger for at least some level of class consiousness. Hasan does talk about and supports the PSL as well. His plan seems to be to get people thinking in terms of class through this quasi-entryism, then try to push them to an actually good party afterwards.
To be clear, I agree party building is much better and not accelerationism of course. But it is a slower, person by person process. I was referring specifically how to awaken a large amount of people at once.
eternally begging communists to not use rush limbaugh's dogwhistles
Fixed, didn't realize it was a dogwhistle