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[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 83 points 3 days ago

Ok but for real, that wouldn't work, right? How would them holding it complete the circuit? The circuit is just gonna be from one screw to the top of the pole back through another screw, not the part the person is holding.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You can short the terminals on a car battery with your body with no issue (there's a theory that that's why you see it in movies so much - if anyone actually tries it the studio isn't giving them an idea that actually works. Same with duct-tape gags and chloroform), but it might melt the hardware and set the floor on fire which would be fun! What they should really do is connect a HV source and charge up the pole. Won't cause any lasting harm, but hopefully it'll convince them they drove a screw through a live wire.

[-] asbestos@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Who the hell told you you can short a car battery with your body? You absolutely can’t.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You definitely can. As in you can grab both terminals and not be injured.

Source: am high level electrical engineer.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

That's not a short, by definition.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

Isn't it? You're shorting the battery terminals by connecting them directly, it's just a shitty wire lol

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

The body is a resistor, limiting the fire of the system in the same way if a lamp would be in the circuit.

A short is a circuit with ideally no impedance, there isn't an ideal circuit and one can debate how much resistance would invalidate the term 'short circuit' so both of you might be right.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah I think closing the circuit might be more accurate than shorting it in this case. That’s how we referred to it when I was training to be an electrician.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago
[-] credo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago
[-] tomiant@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

That's decently high ngl.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Just checking: Is this a semantic argument about my use of "short"?

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

The way you worded it makes it sound like it's very easy to short a battery with your body, not that attempting to short a battery will cause "no issue" because it won't actually work.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm aware - I very intentionally spared everyone the lecture on the mechanics of how this works because it is, on the whole, very boring. However if we really wanted to get into the boring technical details nobody but us cares about then yes, you are indeed shorting the battery, it's just for a ludicrously small amount of current. Ohms law (I = V/R) gives us that.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Thing is, you also called it "shorting" the battery. Usually a short is an unintended, unsustainable low resistance path.

While your body may technically close the circuit, calling it a short makes it sound like an actual electricution risk. That combined with the unclear "no issue" usage made it pretty confusing, I thought you had no idea what you were talking about until I saw your reply.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It's just the common parlance. I wouldn't have done this were it a more technical setting, but this is a shitpost community - so I'll just have to beg forgiveness for my imprecision. Fortunately, should anyone go to test this by fondling their car's terminals, no harm will befall them due to my lack of strict accuracy in the description here (though they might get rebuffed by their car if it's not in the mood).

[-] angband@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

No harm will befall them as long as they don't drop a wrench across the terminals amd catch the flying molten metal in an eye.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

Oooh, because we're too dumb to understand the finer details of electrical engineering, is that it? IS THAT IT?

Because yeah I am too dumb to understand even the coarser details of electrical engineering.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes exactly, I cannot stand the idea of you plebs learning things. How dare you even ask about this.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Jokes on you, we CAN'T learn. Ha.

[-] asbestos@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Did you mean short circuit the battery using your bare hands?

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I meant contact both terminals at once with your bare hands.

[-] asbestos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

But that won’t short circuit it is my point

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[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 days ago

I mean, a car battery isn't going to do anything even if you could complete a circuit. You can just grab the terminals on a car battery, 12V isn't high enough to be noticeable on dry skin.

You'd want to solder on the hot lead of an extension cord hooked up to 120 if you wanted to make sure they never touch that pole again.

Disclaimer: don't do this, it'll probably kill.

[-] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago

A electric horse fence is a better option. Will zing you but isn't lethal and also has an intermittent current. Specifically designed to be touched by living things without harm. But stay away from cattle fencing, that can kill someone with a heart condition.

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[-] axexrx@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I think there is potential for some non lethal zapping if done right (one terminal to the poles other to ground)

Your skin is where most of the body's resistance is, and electrocution / shock can occur at much lower voltages if applied internally/ to a cut.

There's an urban legend about a navy Electrical engineer stopping his heart by trying to measure his internal resistance with a voltmeter- he stabbed one probe into each of his thumbs and the portion of a single volt the meter uses to test resistance going across his heart was enough to cause afib.

Now, with pole dancing, theres some potential, for a sweaty bikini to make contact with both an electrified pole and the interior of the dancer's labia, conducting enough electricity to impart a noticeable shock.

No matter the voltage though, I think the main problem is the body being part of the least resistive, or any, path to ground. Unless the screws holding the bottom of the pole also protruded through the downstairs neighbor's ceiling, and you run the negative wire out your window and into theirs, connecting both ends of the pole to the battery....

[-] Zorcron@piefed.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Even if you had wires on both ends of the pole, nothing would go into the person because the path of least resistance would be the pole. You would have to energize the pole and directly connect the person to the other wire in order to complete the circuit. Then the resistance of the human body becomes an issue, and using this paper as a reference, the worst case scenario of internal body resistance is ~300 ohm, and the threshold for immediate cardiac symptoms is ~100 mA.

Then, 12V / 300 ohm = 40 mA. So closer than I’d like, but probably not fatal even in the absolute worst case scenario where there is no electrical resistance provided by the skin and a direct electrical path through the heart.

[-] axexrx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I was thinking no fatal but feel able. Seems like I was way overestimating the ability of sweat as a saline solution conductor to pull power away from the pole and create a shock on the bits below though.

[-] red_tomato@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not unless the person two floors downstairs is in on it

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

For someone to get electrocuted, the current needs to flow through their body. Electricity always follows the path of least resistance, so there's basically no way to do that from upstairs.

If you attach both terminals of the battery (or a stripped extension wire) that wouldn't do it. Assuming the pole is conductive, the electricity would just go into the screws, into the pole, across to the other screw and out. If the pole isn't conductive it would probably do nothing at all. Maybe the floor is conductive, in which case it would go into the screw, through the floor/ceiling and out the other screw. There's just no way to do it where the electricity flows from a screw, down the pole, into the body of the pole dancer, then somehow back out and up to the battery.

Even if the person who owned the stripper pole wanted to electrocute themselves it would be difficult. Assuming the pole is conductive, if you attached one electrode near the ceiling and one near the floor, the electricity would just flow through the pole. It wouldn't make a detour to go through the body of the pole dancer. You'd basically have to clip one side of the battery to your toe, the other side to the stripper pole, and then grab the pole with your hands. And, even then, it might not do it -- you'd have to have sweaty hands and toes to make the path through your body conductive.

I really hate the movie trope where people can get electrocuted by stepping into a puddle that has something electricity-related in it. It's almost as bad as the trope that you get blasted backwards if you're hit by a bullet / shotgun blast.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

so there's basically no way to do that from upstairs.

Incorrect.

stripper poles are tubes and spin on bearings. follow these instructions and you can most certainly electrocute someone with one.

  1. drill a hole in the center of the floor that feeds directly into the "tube" of the pole.
  2. strip 2-3 feet of a solid core copper wire(10-3) to bare copper and kink it into a zig-zag shape that gives it enough width to touch the pole inside.
  3. feed the wire down into the tube until it stops
  4. connect that wire to common
  5. connect the bolts to live
  6. turn the lights on when you hear them on the pole
  7. zap!
  • make sure you're using a 30amp breaker and switch
  • prepare your butthole for the cops when they show up
  • accept you probably just killed a person. two stupids don't make a less stupid.
[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

Does this work by creating a resistance in the wire (zig zags) so that anywhere you touch on the pole causes you to become the path of least resistance? I'm just having a hard time following but it intrigues me

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

You've put a worrying amount of thought into this.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

🤣 I really didn't. I used to be a contractor and just understand how this stuff works.

best way to not kill yourself is to know the thousands of ways to die.

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

What makes you think that will work? That sounds like a very complicated way of just connecting the common to live with no human in the loop.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Ikr, this at least makes the pole get hot because current is actually running through part of it.
But at no point is a human part of the path of least resistance for the electricity.

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[-] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Nah, that wouldn't. But if you connected just the hot line (right eye of the outlet smiley face) that would do it. Wouldn't recommend it because you could kill them by electrocution or kill even more people with a fire.

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