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[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 126 points 2 months ago

The French get a weird rap of being cowards and expert surrenderers, but honestly I'm starting to think that's some sort of American media psyop. Let's remember the French made snails into luxury cuisine (which means they discovered snails are edible in the first place), dethroned Latin as the lingua franca, and brought their feudal lords to the guillotine. The latter one a service they should absolutely export.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 months ago

The whole "French surrenders" thing is missing context.

My understanding is that the term originated in WW2 when Nazi Germany invaded and France didn't put up a fight. Conservatives in the USA called them cowards etc but what they didn't know (like they cared) was that the French have been very effective in war for centuries even before the USA was a thing.

The French knew they were going to lose any war with Germany at this point in the war and relied on their allies to help them out. Surrender was the best possible option for them to save lives.

Anyone who says that the French are weak don't know shit about their history and don't know how their alliance has helped the US.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

There wouldn't be a US without France.

[-] threshold_dweller@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

And vice versa, by similar measure. The special relationship should have been France and the US.

[-] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Knowing when to stop fighting is also a strength. Rumours of weakness are pointless - attempting to unfairly discredit someone else achieves little more than societal damage.

[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

So yea, an American psyop.

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