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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by mathemachristian@hexbear.net to c/slop@hexbear.net

Translation:

Nazi germany stopped existing after 1945

This is debatable. Politically and for the protection of the populace they argued that the german reich isn't discontinued but was re-developed.

This for me is a central argument, you can't pretend that "Death to Israel[sic]" is a normal proposition. Because that wasn't even done with the 3rd reich. Germany still exists today. The country, the cultural entity, the people, the nation were given the right to continue existing. Fucking[sic] nazi germany was allowed to. And for the sole reason of protecting the population to not commit another genocide, but to be better than the nazis.

I find it baseless, intellectually dishonest and for the whole debate unbelievably destructive, if people act like you're pro genocide in Gaza if you object to the destruction of Israel[sic].

Destruction of the government: absolutely. Criminal prosecution of those responsible: definitively. Even a temporary occupation and "denazification" are things you could demand. But "Death to Israel[sic]" goes far beyond that. And it's simply Bullshit[sic] to pretend that this is the only ethical stance on this subject. Downright bizarre, to think like this.

you can't pretend that "Death to Israel[sic]" is a normal proposition. Because that wasn't even done with the 3rd reich. Germany still exists today. he-admit-it

Death to isntrael requires death to germany-cool, even the germans agree.

"'denazification' are things you could demand". soviet-hmm is barbara-pit for anyone who served in the IDF an acceptable compromise?

Link

Ctrl+F "pal": 15 hits
Ctrl+F "israel": 47 hits
Ctrl+F "arab": Phrase not found

Just in case it wasn't extremely clear who the so-called "antizionist" germans worry about the most. The center of the discussion at the moment is very very much still isntrael which is why I think I'm gonna retire "death to pissrael", and go for "free all of palestine" or something like that.

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[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 15 points 21 hours ago

*How responsible Germany was for WW1 is up for debate but it probably wouldn’t have happened if Germany was still a thousand tiny principalities

its very much up for debate because the idea that germany caused ww1 is a british imperial idea. in reality the europeans were constantly at each others throats and the only thing that kept them from starting WW1 in, say, morocco 1908, is because there were still foreign countries to partition instead. 'lets go home, the EMPIRE got its just rewards now that there's a spanish morocco and a french morocco protectorate'.

but yeah when you think of postww2 you need someplace to ethnic cleanse the germans towards and that was gonna have to be west and east germany.

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

when you think of postww2 you need someplace to ethnic cleanse the germans towards and that was gonna have to be west and east germany.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean. There were several alternative options to what happened. Germany could’ve been split into more than 2 states and never allowed to recombine. Germany could’ve been partitioned and consumed by neighboring countries. A combination even, large chunks of it being absorbed into its neighbors and then 3-4 Germanys each the size of like, Slovenia.

~~Hell, The Holy Roman Empire existed within living memory at the end of WW2, they could’ve split it back into ~1800 semi-independent principalities~~ I was misremembering, there were around 25 Germanys before they unified in the 1870s, the HRE had been gone for a while. Point stands though, split them back into those 25. Prussia, Saxony, Oldenburg, etc., although honestly split Prussia into a couple new ones.

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Germany could’ve been split into more than 2 states and never allowed to recombine.

how do you police that? do you build walls, police checkpoints everywhere and forbid every german state from having a democratic system? what do you do if they vote to be a single country, do an israel/gladio and manipulate the political system of every german state to become self serving electoral fiefs hostile to unification?

even the distinction between just an east and a west germany happened because europe was occupied by the United States and the Soviet Union. turns out there was no end to history and the occupation of europe changed natures once the cold war ended, why would it be any harder to unify the '4 germanies' instead of the 2 we got historically? a permanent european occupation of germany? a permanent hybrid war conducted against the very idea of germany?

Germany could’ve been partitioned and consumed by neighboring countries.

like the polish partitions except without the three empires to permanently occupy the region? i don't think this is sustainble without french tier cultural genocide of the germans. plus, do you see europe coming together and agreeing that France and the Soviet Union should become that much more massive, resourceful and populous by annexing even more parts of Germany?

Hell, The Holy Roman Empire existed within living memory at the end of WW2, they could’ve split it back into ~1800 semi-independent principalities

the holy roman empire hadn't existed for more than a century by the start of ww1 and it was a pre nationalist polity. the reason why the austrian empire was more easily dismantled is because it wasn't birthed by nationalism and romanticism. it wrestled with those concepts in an attempt to create a multicultural state. germany and france didn't have that difficulty, the process of assimilation of, say, the regions of the lorraine into both the french and the german states and away from each other was much more consolidated than anything the austrian empire had achieved at that point.

and even then the austrian empire wasn't turned into 1800 landlord states. it was turned into a handful of nationalist states. in germany you can get bavaria and north germany if you try real hard.

[-] TommyCatkins@hexbear.net 7 points 19 hours ago

Germany was all gas leading up to WW1 and was telling Austria-Hungary to press their claims to war. Germany was a military dictatorship in all but name at that point

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

like I mentioned the brits had threatened the germans with war in defense of france's claims to morocco

the empires were always at each other's throats and ww1 started when their territorial ambitions came too close to home. the germans were not unique in this regard. but you know, the brits - the most rapacious empire by far - had something to say about how their defeated enemies were to blame for the war.

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