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How to actually move to china?
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pal some of us want to leave because we're at risk of being murdered by our government, not because we have less treats
be serious
Trust that I am being serious here.
I understand that many in the U.S want to leave for the sake of self preservation, and that's fine.
But the truth is that provided a comfortable status in the U.S social hierarchy were maintained- most would take no issue with returning to a state of pre-overtly-fascist-normalcy. An opportunity to go back to brunch if you will.
I would submit that you and I both can point to many decades in recent U.S history, where Americans that enjoyed a higher standard of living (better wages, cheaper housing, etc) took no issue with means required to produce those ends.
What I've really been getting at, is the tendency of U.S citizens to only act in the interest of themselves when things get uncomfortable. As apposed to taking meaningful action.
Trust also, that I am not making a purely moral argument. What we're speaking about here is very difficult- and I am aware of all that incentivizes the behavior I'm calling out.
Then you should understand that Americans aren't unique in this respect.
Do you think if the average Russian peasant had sufficient treats they would have still overthrown the Tsar?
Of course not because you and I know that the whole point of giving the proles more treats is to prevent revolution. If it didn't work social democracy as a movement would not exist.
Likewise you and I both know that as the treats dry up the proles become more radically-inclined. Americans aren't special in this regard and it's bizarre to act like we're being uniquely selfish when this is literally how it works: treats or revolution.
How willing a people are to overthrow their oppressive government depends entirely on how much they're able to stomach that oppression.
I was initially confused reading this because you're not saying anything I currently or used to disagree with.
My mentioning of the U.S specifically was not to say that the U.S is entirely unique- although, I would claim that we're in a more advantageous position to act in some regard.