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General Discussion Thread - Juche 115, Week 6
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I'm having difficulty defending ML ideas when talking with people. The biggest issues being "if communism is so great why did it fail everywhere", "Communist were just authoritarian", "China is just as bad as the US". I just don't know how to defend these points properly tbh, I just don't present the ideas clearly enough.
Communism didn't fail of its own accord, it was shot down, backstabbed and slaughtered by Western imperialists. No account of the failures of socialist governance is complete without acknowledgement of the wider context of the 'Cold' war and in particular US interventionism across the world post WW2.
I've gotten replies that this is just conspiracy theories (even after pointing out that the CIA said so in their documents I get hit with "why would the CIA out themselves like that") along with "if the US didn't do that we would be fucked from the Russians"
sometimes it's safe to disengage friend, not saying this disparagingly you tried all you could but it's also a maddening dialogue that often ends in nothing gained and all your energy lost, until the day westerners suffer a fraction of the imperial periphery will they actually realize that capitalism is an inherently evil and doomed system (which they can insult in minor ways all they want while disparaging any alternative, since they still have more to gain by keeping it around in the short term) and stop defending it so instinctively
You also have to observe the audience's class orientation. I say this, having failed and realized the futility of trying to agitate to my Petite-Bourgeois & Labor Aristocratic family. It can be possible to successfully agitate non-Proletarians, but their class interest and conditions push them towards reactionary or conservative views- such as my family.