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I've never heard of Black Panthers advocating for Violence against the working class to enforce political dogma so calling them Tankies is a stretch.
The Panthers were pretty explicitly pro-China, pro-Vietnam, and pro-DPRK. That alone is enough for them to be smeared as "tankies" by Western so-called leftists.
It's almost like their early fund raising was selling Mao's little red book to college students.
Black Panthers supported community defense, being a community defense group themselves, and that's not exactly on brand for Tankies.
It's almost like it's a snarl word that doesn't actually mean anything and so can be deployed and retracted as required. Eldridge Cleaver explicitly described the Panthers as a vanguard in "on the ideology of the black panther party", and I put it to you that if you read that, or any of the other literature written by highly ranked members of the BPP, it would never occur to you that they are anything but "tankies". Unless of course you already knew it was by the BPP, who unfortunately now fall into Lenin's category of great revolutionaries who were slandered in their lifetime but who are now canonized and their ideas bastardised to mollify the masses.
Marxism-Leninism absolutely supports community defense.
Marxism-Leninism doesn't mean "violence against the working classes to enforce political dogma." "Tankie" itself just means "supports existing socialism," which the Black Panther Party absolutely did, even having a relationship with the CPC and DPRK.
If the black panther party weren't tankies, the term is truly meaningless. They were explicitly, openly Marxist-Leninist, an ideology you may know as "Stalinism".
Most Tankies are MLs but not every ML is a Tankie.
"Tankie" is just a pejorative for "supports existing socialism." It means absolutely nothing of substance.
So it's a meaningless term. Good to know.
fuck yeah love too have no idea what words mean