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My dude. You're using the genocide supporting Zionist podcaster as your means to criticize Hasan? Might want to just rethink how you even got here. I'm not wasting my time talking about fucking Sabra Hummus.
wow you almost exactly replicated how he would respond lol
You criticized someone for "not using actual logic" and then followed it up with a Zionist crying about racism while he defends a genocide.
You really want to engage in the facts of this with that as your backing?
I don't care the politics of either person, I literally do not care about either of these people. If Bernie sanders said to use coal and Trump says we need to use solar I will say Trump is correct and Bernie isn't using logic. Someone put 2 Jewish people in F tier on a hummus tier list and put the Jewish owned company's hummus in that tier. I can see that being antisemitic, I can see it just being a meme, but either way it's not an insane thing to question it, and Hasan dances around it for 10 minutes and says "well I'm not in their brain so I can't say what they meant by it." Here is the response from a normal person who is being honest: "Yes I could see how that could seem antisemitic to put 2 specifically Jewish people in F tier, but I think it was just a gaff or a joke and not meant to be antisemitic." The person making the argument is irrelevant here, if you want to say Ethan is horrible go ahead, that doesn't make Hasan correct here.
You don't even understand what they are discussing in the clip you linked to. I can't believe I am am typing out this response to someone that doesn't even understand what they linked. But fuck it...
What is being discussed is why Ben Shapiro was put in F tier in the thumbnail even though he wasn't on the tier list in the actual video. The obvious answer to me (if I'm not trying to label all criticisms of Jewish people being because the critic is antisemitic) is: Ben Shapiro was a popular figure at that time and putting him in the thumbnail was for click bait. He was also a supporter/denier of the Palestinian genocide.
So, your "obvious answer" doesn't even make sense.
You're picking a part of a longer discussion on the topic and not even understanding what is being discussed.
You picked the exact moment where Ethan gives up arguing about the actual tier list. (An Iranian women is literally sitting on the same tier as him btw. Do you think that's because the panel was bigoted against her?)
He pivots to talking about the thumbnail because he's losing the argument on the tier list. And then starts saying the appearance of a famous right wing commentor in the thumbnail is because he's Jewish and therefore they hate Jews.
It's such a bad faith argument. He's literally treating Ben Shapiro like his only identity is "Jew" and there is no other reason to maybe put him in a thumbnail.
It's such a ridiculous point to pivot to. Hasan literally does the best thing he can do and just ignore it. "I don't know why". It's so far off from the topic. There is no reason to engage with it and keep following the chain of pivots.
Hasan -> Hasan Moderator (Frogan) -> Frogan doing a video -> The unknown video editor that made the thumbnail for the video.
Like, this is how far you gotta go? Sure, he could have gave an explanation like I did. But, then what? Ethan pivots again or just keep arguing it? Hasan isn't dancing around it. He's not allowing Ethan to control the conversation into something completely irrelevant like a click bait thumbnail.
There. I wasted my time explaining something that you could have gotten from actually watching the video you linked.
Jewish people can be criticized and their Jewish identity be irrelevant. Ben Shapiro and Ethan Klein are both racist genocide supporters. Why would I or anyone else hate them for being Jewish? I hate them because they supported a genocide.
As good faith as Hasan. https://youtu.be/knMyMxXeoDY?t=36m50s this is the first mention of the tier list, Ethan says "yes, with pleasure", then says "did you see the thumbnail." What a pivot to mention it within 5 seconds of bringing it up. I do enjoy wasting everyone's time by lying when you can just look at the video. I can give you the closed captions if you missed him mentioning it within 5 seconds.
There is no Iranian woman in F tier, it is Ethan and Ben Shapiro. He also did not say that means they hate jews, he said it was antisemitic. I can be sexist without hating women, I can be racist without hating other races.
Here are some other non-jewish people that were genocide deniers: Trump (far more popular and recognizable), the change my mind guy, piers Morgan, just about every republican politician. Again, is it a coincidence they put 2 jews into F tier? Probably, but it's not insane to think that's a bit odd and question it. And again all Hasan had to do was say "I can see that but I think it's just they put him there because he's the first anti-hamas guy they thought of." But instead he says hey who knows I could never make any statement ever about it, it's insane to say it's because they're Jewish, and continues grandstanding rather than engaging with what Ethan said. You engage with it because its a conversation and to not massively waste the other persons time. You don't say uhhwhatt? Ethan are you ok? Are you hallucinating?
I don't care if they're Jewish or not, but I also don't think it's insane for someone to make that connection and say why are the 2 jews in F tier. If there were 10 worst fox news commentators ranked and the bottom 2 were the only women I would question it. Just say I'm not sure but I see where you're coming from, I think its just a coincidence. Don't tell them they're insane for thinking hmm this video about Jewish hummus put 2 jews in F tier, anyone that considers that weird is actually just insane and hallucinating, like wtf? Again I don't care if it's the editor, the president, or some random guy in a basement. They posted the video with that thumbnail, and Ethan is asking is "is this thumbnail antisemitic" and Hasan argues around it for 20 minutes rather than just saying yes I see how that could be bad. He literally says no I don't even think it was a bad coincidence, and then goes on to whataboutism.