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Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 5 days ago
[-] Skavau@piefed.social 12 points 5 days ago

Everyone knows this. This is also just piefed.social.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Linking so people see it.

Isn't that something possible in any piefed spot not just the instance of the dev?

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes. So? Piefed.ca is receiving the bump here. Other instances have turned it off.

You know Rimu made a thread in !piefed_meta@piefed.social so you can ask questions or express concerns.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 days ago

Because it's a piefed feature set.

Based on rimus responses here and elsewhere they do not seem interested in feedback.

Even in their comment linking to a thread saying they welcome it, they were attacking someone providing it

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

Where do you see that in the thread?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 days ago

Here = comm

And https://lemmy.world/comment/21861362 which leads to

https://piefed.social/comment/9670365

Where both calls anyone but them looking at the code amateurs and can't understand people wouldn't provide feedback if thought bad things in code were purposely done as so many projects will do that

There’s no need to listen to rumors and amateur speculation when we’re right here and happy to help. Come on in, the water’s fine!

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 5 points 5 days ago

This comment was a month ago, and he was aware of people heavily slamming his project and showing no interest at all in actually sharing it to him.

He isn't specifically "calling out" anyone directly. All he says here is that the stuff people are complaining about here have been on piefed and not hidden since day zero.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago

Notice the quote from them specifically saying everyone but us are amateurs.

He isn't specifically "calling out" anyone directly. All he says here is that the stuff people are complaining about here have been on piefed and not hidden since day zero.

Again he's linking to the thread calling out others for looking at the code.

And again most are pointing out how terrible the code is and how odd it is for some of the features to exist.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

"Amateur speculation". I've directly replied to many people who have made false conclusions about parts of the code they looked at, mostly notably the claim that continues to persist that lemmy.ml is also defederated out of the box based on a complete misunderstanding of a specific code snippet.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago

Love that the respose ignores every point just deflects again to a completely different topic

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

Saying some are doing amateur speculation is not the same thing as saying anyone who has issues are "amateurs".

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago

Except that is exactly how it reads.

ignore everyone else looking at the code because they're amateurs as we're the only professionals here

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

That's simply not how I read it at all. He's referring to people taking excerpts from the code and running away with long conclusions and motives based in some cases on presuppositions and assuming bad intent.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago

It reads as being upset anyone would dare read it. Especially with replying to the person pointing it out they wouldn't review anything they thought was intentional coded in a particular way.

Note this is completely separate from by stance after reading some of the code and stance of the level of it.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

I simply do not share this interpretation of his comments at all.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago

I know, but you also can't see anything but positives from anything they do

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

And I can say the reverse to you. You interpret every decision made in the worst possible light.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

Its more one can ask and inquire here if they wish rather than snipe and spam it around the fediverse everywhere.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

Again it's behave as I want and you have to talk to me or it's bad.

Am I talking to rimu now? Or just pr team?

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"Behave as I want"? What? I think it's reasonable for a developer, any developer to not view those who, from their perspective, seek to denigrate their work, possibly in bad faith, across multiple places.

You are talking to Skavau.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

So you do/can see the hostility from the language used. So piefed pr

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

No, I'm seeing hostility used from others across the wider fediverse. I don't think anything he said there was really specifically hostile at all in any thread. A complete reach.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

Hostility by simply doing code reviews and questioning odd design choices?

Or hostility like the lemmy devs face constantly?

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

Hostility by simply doing code reviews and questioning odd design choices?

By spamming it everywhere every chance they can in an effort to try and drive people from Piefed, by making no effort to inquire or outreach to anyone in a neutral way as to why the code is as they (think) it is.

But in comparison to the Lemmy admins. Sure. Do you think they take seriously, and view the opinions of those that are rude to them all across the fediverse?

Or hostility like the lemmy devs face constantly?

I mean he's been accused of running a CIA-style op (or compared to).

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

Weird, I was told to only assume the positives in everything. Shouldn't they be happy to have people looking and spreading the code?

Now I see the issue its they didn't do it in pr or only ask in approved spaces (even though most are on instances rimu has blocked). How could they not want to be neutral after having it start with him completely against them.

I mean he's been accused of running a CIA-style op (or compared to).

I'm not sure what else they would expect when starting by explicitly banning leftists from the space they are currently in.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

Now I see the issue its they didn’t do it in pr or only ask in approved spaces (even though most are on instances rimu has blocked). How could they not want to be neutral after having it start with him completely against them.

You think that Rimu would jump onto these instances that lets say are mutually ideological hostile and take notes and believe they're arguing in good faith?

I’m not sure what else they would expect when starting by explicitly banning leftists from the space they are currently in.

How has he done that outside of his control?

You think every single community that bans leftists (per your definition) is necessarily run or controlled by the CIA?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

You think that Rimu would jump onto these instances that lets say are mutually ideological hostile and take notes and believe they're arguing in good faith?

I'm saying they shouldn't be surprised when no one wants to discuss things with someone who specifically said they don't want anything to do with them. Which also goes back to the language rimu uses when questioned.

Again are you pr for piefed cause you are way to invested in defending it, doing best to distract from the actual points and issues brought up and seemly instantly responding.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

I’m saying they shouldn’t be surprised when no one wants to discuss things with someone who specifically said they don’t want anything to do with them.

Right, and the feeling is mutual. I don't think it really matters how Piefed looked, or what it does - many of those users outright oppose any competing platform on the Fediverse because they believe you should help the Lemmy devs instead of making your own. So what's the end-game here?

Which also goes back to the language rimu uses when questioned.

He's clearly referring to the people who express what he views as bad faith commentary and attacks on his character from those instances and communities.

Again are you pr for piefed cause you are way to invested in defending it, doing best to distract from the actual points and issues brought up and seemly instantly responding.

You keep replying to me. I reply back. I pretty much reply to everyone if I have something else to say so long as you keep replying to me.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

He's clearly referring to the people who express what he views as bad faith commentary

Yes, that's exactly it but aimed at anyone who isn't talking to them even if rimu already said screw off to them.

My last point as there's no convincing what appears to be piefeds pr person. Do you think users like this who started another flame war are a good look for piefed?

https://lemmy.world/post/42493755

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, it's not. It's referring to people grievance-mongering about the code and making it their life goal to try and attack piefed - many of whom disagreed with it at the onset.

Did you actually think you were going to somehow convince me to oppose Piefed, or something?


I have no control over someone else advertising the Fediverse purely by means of specifically focusing on Piefed. They didn't start any flame war specifically by doing that.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

That was an interesting read.

Seems like piefed should fix a lot of that. For some of it, at least make it configurable and not hard coded. But that blocked user stuff seems like a real problem.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 11 points 5 days ago

Most of it is configurable and off by default. But the haters don't mention that.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago

Yeah I’m reading that in other replies. Still you would put this in configs, for which you could have templates that come with certain defaults populated, rather than hard coding like this.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago

I'm doing this because I love doing it. Often that means the boring bits like documentation or config or general finesse get left out. I'm trying to paint with broad strokes in the hope that when others see what I'm trying to do they'll join in and fill in the details.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah no worries. I’m happy with any effort that brings more people to the fediverse. My comments were honest and constructive criticism. Wasn’t meant to offend. Keep up the good work.

[-] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 4 days ago
[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 days ago

As i asked there, which is the 4chan image blocking as the checks there simply say images from 4chan cause reputation loss.

I know you are amazing at promoting the fediverse but feels odd to see you ignore all the issues people bring up about piefed

[-] Blaze@piefed.zip 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

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Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

  • the thorn character filter
  • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
  • the "this filter" being configurable

My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

  • multicommunities
  • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
  • crossposts comments consolidation
  • communities moderation features
  • posts and user flairs
  • keyword filters

None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 4 points 4 days ago

All the "features missing on Lemmy" could/should be implemented on the client. The fact that developers don't understand that and go on to reimplement a whole part of the stack (instead of joining forces and helping the existing effort) is counterproductive.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 4 days ago

Piefed just reminds me too much of sublinks where people simply hated the devs so instead of helping improve the software or even fork it just started fresh on something new.

None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

I'd argue poor code will cause issues as users increase, both for instance admins and user performance.

Overall the issues brought up keep coming back to piefed bringing in some of the worst parts of reddit to the fediverse, like the reputation system. It's designed how rimu wants people to interact in specific ways. And does not seem to care if it actually works with other non piefed instances.

this post was submitted on 31 Jan 2026
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