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Streets are for people. Not cars. Don't blame the kid for doing kid stuff.
Where are you getting that idea? Streets were used by horse/ox driven carts/carriages for thousands of years and long before cars. The only reason they're as wide as they are are for these vehicles. They were never meant for purely human pedestrians.
Not at anywhere near the speeds or volume that they're used by cars today. Streets used to be legitimate and safe places where kids could play or people could walk. Cars changed all of that.
Modern cities that are actually well designed focus on making streets destinations - places where people would actually want to exist outside of a car. Streets like this are generally better the fewer cars they have
You've moved the goalposts. You previously said streets aren't for cars. Now you're fine with cars, but its the volume/speed you take issue with? The article you're replying to had a car driving at 17mph before the kid ran in front of it. A horse drawn carriage can go about twice that fast at top speed.
You...actually think that there weren't people injured and killed by horse carts long before cars existed? Are you serious? I'm beginning to think you have no idea what you're talking about especially with regard to history.
No, that is not what I said.
Again, not what I said.
I don't think fucking horses were killing 400 kids per day but if they were I would be against ubiquitously using them on streets as well.
Since you're clearly arguing in bad faith, I think I'm going to disengage.