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[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Are we talking to them for entertainment or information? Because it might be more fun to hear a flat earther try to explain their beliefs, but you probably wouldn't want to adopt those beliefs.

That is just too hard going through the BLANK.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A flat earther who did the math. Set up the experiment and measured the tangential angles of light rays or whatever. Worries about the hundred ways he may have fucked up his calculations.

A round earther who googled it. Knows with certainty. Knows what all smart people know to be obviously true.

Well you see my point.

Also, focus is a powerful and funny thing. You could hide an elephant in the room if you are focused on the tv. It's a kind of useful insanity

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

worries about the hundred ways he may have fucked up

lol. check out Beyond the Curve.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lol? Seriously?

[-] Bongles@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

You've changed the comparison from your post. A round earther who googled it, is not a focused and passionate expert. They googled why the Earth is round and accepted it. A focused and passionate expert by nature of being an expert can do all the calculations that actually work and prove the Earth is round (nevermind the fact we've seen it from space at this point). Those focused and passionate experts are exactly the interesting people you want to talk to, because they intimately understand what they're experts on and can go on and on about it in detail.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You've changed...

I was offering a completely different point, to rhynoplaz there.

[-] Bongles@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Then consider what I said in regards to your original post, is it not true?

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago

Well I stated that I think the opposite clearly enough.

I appreciate the depth but ya. Wideness

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well you see my point.

I really don't.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al -4 points 1 month ago
[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If you have a point, make it.

If being snarky and defensive is your only reaction when someone questions your statement, then you probably didn't have a point to make.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al -1 points 1 month ago

Wow good point.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ok fine.

The first guy is smart. The second guy is dumb.

Your non-understanding is either intentional or unintentional. Both look like a miserable slog to me.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

See? That's why I asked.

You described someone who was trying really hard to do everything wrong, and refused to believe it when he confirmed he was wrong. That guy is much more stupid than someone who easily finds answers that have been calculated centuries ago.

[-] Griffus@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

So are you saying that someone who knew what they where doing 5k years ago and almost perfectly calculated the circumference of the earth knows more about the shape of the earth than what I see on the horizon and all of my scientifically illiterate calculations??? Seems improbable.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One is the product of firsthand observation and careful reasoning, the other is a story told by authority.

Surely you appreciate the difference.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sure, one is completely wrong and arrogant.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You argue like a medieval religious zealot. And that seems to be completely normal.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

But I haven't chained you up or tortured you once!

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago

A medieval religious zealot's style of argumentation is characterized by his appeal to dogma.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's a fun fact, I'll have to remember that, but to be clear, I'm not saying nobody should question authority, by all means, question away, do some research, find out why the established truths are established truths.

But, I don't understand why we should give any respect to someone who wastes time unsuccessfully trying to deny reality.

If someone went into space and sent back a photo of a flat earth, I might start asking questions myself, but so far, despite numerous attempts, there is absolutely no evidence of that, so I think anyone wasting their time on that endeavor is on the same level as someone trying to flap their arms until they fly away.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 month ago
[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yup. Better delete the whole post to save face.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al -1 points 1 month ago

Thus we enter the miserable slog. No thanks.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm starting to understand why you appreciate ignorance over knowledge.

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