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Teaching seems like a frustrating job (media.piefed.world)
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[–] 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Nah, even as a child that's unacceptable. My kid is only 5 and I don't let them hit people, and punish them when they do. The response from the parent shows the apple fell straight down

Edit: if you think this is advocating violence against children, go touch grass or read a single book on parenting ffs. Natural/logical consequences make good punishments for misbehavior, and have gone a long way to helping my kid not act out (and are nonviolent, since that has to be spelled out)

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I never said it was acceptable. Do you call you're children garbage when they misbehave? Does their behavior improve after you tell your child that you think they're garbage? I don't let my children hit anyone either, I just don't call them garbage if they do.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Normal people don't break the teachers glasses and punch them in the face. This is already major behavioral problems if your kids are school age and doing this.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Totally agree. But, normal people also don't go around calling children garbage either.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    As someone who was a child and therefore interacted with thousands of other children in public school I can confirm some children are garbage. Do you not remember school? Were all of those people ok?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I remember troubled kids that didn't know how to handle what they where dealing with at home and internally. I don't remember any garbage kids, no. The idea that a child was just born garbage is just cruel, I hope one day you can learn to forgive and let go of that hate inside. 

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    No! Bad! No hitting children!

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Punishing is much more than violence against children, and hitting them is one of the worst ways to punish for many reasons.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    How about threaten to hit them with gestures?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Or maybe you talk to the kid and take away a privilege they have temporarily that is (at least close to) a natural consequence of behavior? But then again, I'm just a parent of a relatively well adjusted kid who isn't violent and talks to me about their problems, so what the fuck do I know?

    Man, the amount of people who default "punishment" to "violence against kids" is fucking stupid.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    only 5... punish them

    Sounds real normal and healthy. jfc. Who upvotes this trash?

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it's unacceptable, but it's also unacceptable to call a child a "garbage person" for acting like a child.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Regardless of the labelling, punching someone in the face is absolutely not "acting like a child", it's acting like a garbage person. That shit should not be tolerated or excused away to complain about labelling.

    And honestly, excusing away a kid battering their teacher as "acting like a child" is pretty goddamned unacceptable too.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don't teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they're still learning.

    If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    I'm always amazed at how little reading comprehension people have, or how they end up responding to things in their own head.

    1 - your example of your little brother acting like an asshole doesn't mean it's "shit that kids do". This is "boys will be boys" shit, and that's not acceptable. This is like saying your little brother throws rocks at moving cars or at animals and it's just "shit kids do". Misbehaving kids do it, and need to be taught better, but it is not normal kid behavior.

    2 - no one is saying they're talking to the kid like that

    3 - part of teaching kids to be better people is showing them there are natural consequences for their actions, which guess what? That's a form of punishment, and it isn't violence.

    If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

    I ask my kid what's wrong and work with them to find a solution, and implement natural/logical (and because crayons are needed, non violent) consequences for their misbehavior. I may use choice descriptors for their behavior when they are not in the house, but I would never speak to my kid that way.

    It baffles me how many people in this thread don't have a concept of natural/logical consequences as punishment, and it really fucking shows in the responses. But I guess when you're raised with violence and can't be bothered to look into alternatives, it's easy to assume and drag people on the Internet

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It's amazing that you complain about people not reading and responding to stuff in their head, then you turn around it do it yourself.

    1: I quite clearly stated that this was inappropriate behavior that needs to be educated away. I don't know how you think my example is condoning the action. Children need to be taught to keep their hands to themselves, this is a normal part of child development. It is normal for children to have Big Emotions and not know how to use their words yet. Normal doesn't mean it shouldn't be addressed, it just means that every child has to have it addressed.

    2: Have you not read the rest of the thread? Starting with the post calling the child a garbage person?

    3: I never said anything to the contrary?

    but I would never speak to my kid that way.

    Then why are you defending it so hard?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    1 - You say it's inappropriate right after saying 'this is shit kids do', you're still softballing your disapproval by acting like this is normal

    2 - I don't read that as talking to the child, but venting about them to other adults, as I seen tons of times (with choice words, but still)

    3 - probably more for the peanut gallery who can't comprehend non-violent punishments

    Then why are you defending it so hard?

    I'm not, I'm defending myself against people making up details in the situation and acting like I'm doing it to my kid.

    But this conversation has more than ran it's course, so I'm done with this thread. Good day.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    What about the state locking kids in a room all day? Tolerated or no?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Sure, why not. Because all punishment is the job of the state, and no parent has the capability to punish their kid without violence, clearly.

    /S for those who can't realize punishment and violence are not synonymous

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I wouldn't call a particular kid a garbage person to or around that kid in consideration for the effect it might have on that kid. Between you and me kids who do that are a fucked up mess who probably aren't going to end well.

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