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[–] 73 points 9 months ago (30 children)

Can Trump just... not? When is the grim reaper coming for him? PLEASE I hope every night he dies the next day (legally and naturally).

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  • [–] 83 points 9 months ago (21 children)

    This doesn't stop with Trump. They voted for Trump and they voted for the congress that protects him. They will just pick another person that does the same thing, but probably sounds less stupid while doing it. This is an America problem.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Their voting is rigged. The people should not rely on that system

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    I and many people I know have spent our whole lives trying to change the rigged system of FPTP/single-member constituency voting with the further distortion of state-based apportionment.

    The issue, as with any rigged system, is that it’s really hard to un-rig unless either the people benefitting from the rigging let it change (lol) or there’s a major upheaval—usually a war. It took WWI for the German voting system to be un-rigged in favor of the Junkers and Belgium to end their rigged system, and it took a civil war in America to end the 3/5 Compromise which was a start in the right direction and then a decade plus of sustained sctivism for the civil rights movement to see a real impact in voting rights.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    The thing with the USA is they are permanently at war, and no war has changed the system. The people benefiting from it are thriving in their political system. What's gonna happen when this two things can't change the system? I'm afraid it's gonna be a Civil conflict.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    We've been in a cold civil war for years now. It's just getting hotter and hotter.

    I've been to marches that were literally planned by children afraid of their futures and boomer men showed up with guns to scare them.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I agree, but these local policies completely opposed to the federal government will bring an armed conflict. If the National Guard decides to back one governor instead of staying loyal to Trump, to name one circumstance, then that may spark a national conflict. This is not the most probable thing to happen, with Black Panthers in the streets already, but it's a delicate state of things. We have a saying for this that applies to Trump and the USA: it's like freeing a goat in a glassware shop.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    It's crazy that I'm kinda hoping for a civil war, at this point. I don't see any way out of this that isn't an armed conflict.

    I didn't come here until I was a teen and I was deposited into a state that is pretty hostile to everything that I am. My wife came to the US when she was 17 and its been a struggle for her since day 1.

    I am so beyond exhausted.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    Nah. This specific thing is all him.

    Edit: shit, and Stephen miller, but he’s gone with trump I think.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    He would have been legally fired a long time ago if he was alone.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    His voters support him and are clueless about his actions and the world. Most republican representatives are just going along with it because he’s so powerful with his cult.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    "His voters" being most of the people that cast votes in the presidential election, so yeah, its really not "just him" is it?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    He has some kind of magical hold on his cult members. Of course the conservative propaganda machine (Fox, Newsmax, OANN, Twitter, TikTok) are so adeptly tuned to keep them brainwashed, but Trump himself is a once in a generation talent for leading the cult.

    Really I'm so impressed at how efficient the propaganda machine keeps the base so angry and so oblivious to reality. It's completely terrifying, but really really effective.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I beg to differ. His cult is hard carrying. Republican politicians don’t mind reversing all their opinions at the drop of a hat because opposing his cult has proven to be (until recently) political suicide. The [legal and natural] death of Donald Trump would leave the party in shambles. Susie Wiles and Stephen Miller need a figurehead and there isn’t any that can court maga.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    It definitely does continue to some extent. He's not only the cause but also a symptom of a rotten society. However, he is a once in a generation talent at leading the cult. While Vance is "fully enlightened" (as Yarvin and Thiel have said), he can't command that same kind of magical hold on the cult.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I hope he dies illegally and unnaturally

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I don't care how he dies. Just soon. And ideally very painfully.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Actually that would be secondary. Ideally, he rots in prison for the rest of a long miserable life, where he can see the media and his own followers criticize, make fun of, and torment his little impotent insecurity. He's never going to prison though, so...

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Trump is a symptom, not the cause.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    100% but he does have a magical hold on so many idiots. The conservative machine knows this is a once in a generation occasion so they're trying to accomplish everything before he's gone. Once he's gone, Vance won't be able to control that rabid base as well.

    It'll still be a nightmare I'm sure, but not as bad.

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