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The Lesser Evil
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this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2026
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DNC platform is tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs. They have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years, currently 45. The last time they had 58 for less than two months they caucused with 2 independents to pass Medicaid. They would have launched a Public Option identical to Germany's healthcare if not for one of those independents opposing it.
DNC is liberal, DNC is on our side, Vote DNC. Or, if an independent polls higher, then vote for them because at least they're not a Republican and removing every single Republican should be our goal.
Many democrats are on our side. Historically, traditionally the DNC AKA leadership absolutely isn't. There have been some changes in recent history. And that's good. But till there's enough history to plot out a new pattern of behavior. We'd be fools to treat them as if they changed.
The biggest problem with the Democratic party for decades has been that they're serving two masters. Lip-service to the voters to try and get their neoliberal candidates in office. But legislating largely for the major donors that took over funding the party once Reagan broke the unions. The DNC talks the talk. But atm are unable to walk the walk. I hope that changes soon. With each death and retirement, things look a little better for them.
Yeah, like three of them.
And the rest are fighting harder to stop Democrats who actually are on our side than they are against fascists: people like Mamdani and Platner.
Yep, but thankfully it looks like Mamdani and Platner might be changing the equation. Fingers crossed.
Platner could easily be Fetterman v2.
Absolutely possible, though, less likely. He at least seems to show some introspection and ability to learn. But you're not wrong to be wary of him considering his past stances.
No one said they were. It's a start. Not the end game.
Everyone does. AOC and Mamdani literally are marching with us. It's largely leadership that keeps anything from getting done or changing. Blame them.
we are? leadership is the dnc.
I agree. We largely agree. So I'm not sure what the disagreement is.
AOC and Mamdani are leadership? Did anyone tell them or the DNC that?
The closest we're getting to a shell game here is painting with a broad brush and lumping them all into one shell. You're never going to get the old guard out if you continue to make enemies of the ones actually working to do it.
I was. Literally what I was talking about in the post you replied to before this. Did you reply to the wrong person?
Oh absolutely. If I've been unclear about anything. Absolutely fuck the DNC and it's leadership.
The DNC has had multiple opportunities to tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs during my lifetime and they have not done so once. I don’t believe them anymore when they say it’s their platform.
Being anti-Republican isn’t enough anymore. This shit will keep happening for as long as we allow private ownership of the means of production.
The quiet part is there wasn’t a plan to tax the rich for another decade or two when they thought shit would actually hit the fan. Shit hit the fan much sooner than they hoped, as this was an issue they were going to leave the next generation to handle. It’s more an issue of the baby boomers having had control of the DNC for decades.
Business was booming during the Obama years; why did it matter to the rich people in Congress if the rest of us had to hustle more? That’s the real reason they didn’t tax the rich when they could have, well that and they were getting tons of funding from the big businesses.
The pro-corporate Dem plans went up in flames quite a lot when Hillary was not elected. Now that shit got worse much sooner than they hoped, they’re in a rock and a hard place because they still don’t want to tax their rich buddies but the voters are actually pushing to vote them out if they keep doing nothing.
And their campaign promises have so much value, clearly.
I corrected this slightly, but you're right. They know that none of it is actually going to get done, and they have the excuses already lined up: not enough votes, obstruction, filibuster, parliamentarian, etc. etc. etc.
It's the same reason some billionaires insist that they support higher taxation on themselves, because they know it is never going to happen.
Maybe if we had more than 48 we could find out. Let's call their bluff.
I agree.
And also, itd be great if senators like Bernie, Warren and others, actually called out their "peers" who are obviously blocking progress.
I think my two Senators: Kaine, and Warner are playing a shell game where they go as corporate as they can and still give the appearance of resistance.
And yet I ha e to vote for them until there is a viable alternative. Its just so frustrating the lack of transparency.
Nonsense.
Donald has the same amount of power that Clinton, Obama, and Biden had.
The problem isn't a lack of power. It's their predilection to enrich themselves at the expense of their constituents. The only difference is Donald isn't offering shitty excuses like Dems do.
Biden had the least amount of power because as I mentioned the DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years.
To be clear, Trump's power comes solely from inaction in the Senate.
But, on that note, Biden accomplished a lot of great things including taxing the rich.
Every time the Dems have had a majority in my lifetime, they have failed to even discuss progressive legislation, let alone try to enact it.
The Dems had control for a few months in 2011, and that was when they passed the ACA. That was the only point in my lifetime they controlled the government.
The last time before that was 1961-1969. Which included such legislation as the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act, though in sure you can find plenty more that was passed.
Not to mention that the Dems have absolutely been discussing progressive legislation. It's failed to pass, passed and then been vetoed, or even at times been passed and then struck down by conservative courts.
In 2003 they banned campaign funding from PACs instead allowing only a maximum from individuals, but in 2007-2010 the SCOTUS shut it down then declared it unconstitutional.
The Inflation Reduction Act also contained a ton of good stuff not even related to Inflation.
No, I'm pretty sure Democrats are for more funding for ICE. Don't project your ideals into these ghouls.
DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years and now the ICE has more funding than most militaries. If you want change, vote out the Republicans, which almost always means vote DNC.
What a forsaken day to browse Lemmy
I've been a regular for quite awhile but I did recently move to piefed.
Feel free to make some kind of argument when you're ready.