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Can one man look more cucked? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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[–] 163 points 8 months ago (61 children)

Honestly, the Nobel Foundation has done themselves and the Nobel Prize terrible damage. I, for one, am no longer interested in this sham of an award, or any of the other Nobel prizes. They should be ashamed that were stupid enough or corrupt enough to have given it to Machado in the first place, she was clearly no agent for peace. This just adds to that shame.

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  • [–] 50 points 8 months ago* (40 children)

    Look at it from her side. She can "give" this narcissistic her award (which she actually can't) and the guy who holds the strings will be pleased and she gets her country back, peacefully.

    That's a great deal for her and Venezuela overall. She is playing him. It's tactful and tactical. And he's a pathetic toddler who only responds to praise and participation awards - what a sad sad sad person to have as leader. I hope MAGA sees how pathetic this is but I know they won't.

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  • [–] 68 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    its a little naive if anything, hes not going to give anything back. he just takes more if anything. hes a void.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago

    She's not "trying to get her country back." For one, it doesn't belong to her but to all Venezuelans, the majority of which do not like her. In addition, she has spoken publicly at economic conferences about her plans to sell the rights to Venezuela's oil and other natural resources to US oil companies. She's playing a game here, but it's at the expense of Venezuelans, not for their benefit.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    When the US kidnaps your president and installs a puppet, it’s hardly “getting your country back” when the puppet plays along.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    She's not the puppet he installed. She's trying to bribe him to put her in that position but for now it's Maduro's VP Delcy Rodriguez

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Which is the stupid part, because the peace prize was her only leverage. It's pretty clear she's purely trying to play the book of appeasing him to get him help her, but failed to actually secure that part in some under the table quid pro quo.

    Now Trump gets to pick and choose between two people that are willing to sell out their country to appease him, except one is actually in control of said country while the other handed him a peace prize (her only leverage) and hoped for him to 'do the right thing'.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    He not a toddler, he's about to extort an entire country for oil, and very likely go to war with them. Machado isn't playing him, shes encouraging him in the hope that she gets a seat at the table.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    He's doing things based on his memories. 80s were his happy time. He went in for oil but even the oil companies want little to do with that - we're past peak oil and it'll cost a fortune to get the oil fields producing an amount that's profitable and that will also have a big affect on demand cost (i.e. cost will go down so there's no point in extraction)

    Former oil worker and from a family of oil workers. Been through enough cycles to know what to expect.

    Trump is a toddler who doesn't understand simple business ideas anymore, if he ever did. Machado is playing him because she knows he only listens to praise from the last person he talked to. He's very simple and old.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Plus, more oil on the markets will just push the price down further without increasing sales. Trump is not going to wave a magic wand and make people around the world start burning more oil when everyone else is switching to renewables as fast as they can.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    The Foundation couldn't stop her from doing this, and as far as they're concerned, it's still hers. Physical possession is symbolic, and she knew it would get him to calm down. Cynical? Yes. But it if works...

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  • [–] 57 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    My issue is that Machado should never have got the award in the first place, Trump now possessing it adds insult to injury. The Foundation should be ashamed of what they did.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    My issue is that Machado should never have got the award in the first place

    Why? At the time she was a persecuted activist challenging a dictator. That's right up their alley.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The Peace prize foundation has nothing to do with the scientific prizes.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Look at who awards the prices. Copied from Wikipedia:

    Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences (Physics, Chemistry and Economics[1])

    Nobel Assembly at the Karolinska Institute (Physiology or Medicine)

    Swedish Academy (Literature)

    Norwegian Nobel Committee (Peace)

    Notably all prices except the peace price are awarded by Swedish institutions.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    And, speaking as a Norwegian, the committee members are selected by politicians, some notably being right-wing parties

    Currently there's a big discussion about reforming it due to these reasons, and have the committee more rooted in subject experts. There's a fair amount of criticism, especially by our red party

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I don’t know if having a title such as this constitutes the need for affirmation. Like you need to show people you have an award for something that one should have been done already. (You don’t tell ppl your going to therapy but rather you do the positive outcomes/actions for your community/oneself)

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