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Asking because some of them supported Cuba a few weeks ago but now Cuba is enemy #1 and the US just killed 32 Cuban officers who were directly defending Maduro as his personal guard.

It kinda seems like you can't be an enemy of Venezuela and also a supporter of Cuba so like... Are there any states left that these self-identified leftists still support at all?

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[-] jack@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

I can corroborate her, I've met tons of people who defend Cuba because they see it as an underdog basically while calling the PRC and USSR evil empires.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

I can't put my finger on this, but I bet there's some psychology behind rooting for the "underdog" and being repulsed by the "powerful"

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's a fair bit of writing on this topic, for example this article

~~There is also this one that more explicitly links this mindset to Christian culture~~

[-] casskaydee@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Those are the same essay just published in two different places. It is a banger though

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I'm very silly sometimes. I read the first version but not the second. Thank you for the correction.

[-] casskaydee@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

No worries. It doesn't help that the redsails version changed the title

[-] anoriginalthought@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I have to imagine it has to do with identification. Unless you're at the top of the social order, you're going to identify with the "underdog" to some extent, but few will identify with the powerful. Even at the higher echelons, there's still plenty of people with more power, which can lead one to the false assumption of one's own downtrodden status: hence the difficulty of many white-presenting people to recognize their own privilege, even when it becomes increasingly obvious when bolstered by wealth.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

I'll admit that used to be me when I was a radlib but even then I supported Venezuela and Chavez because of how much I hate bush

[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

There's a weird current on the left where you sympathize with Latin American socialists and are willing to consider the material constraints they have to contend with, but you have nothing but disdain for Asian and Russian communists because they didn't just snap their fingers and out of thin air create productive forces and a classless society. I guess it's unexamined Cold War racism?

[-] cornishon@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago

There's nothing weird about it, it's just good old orientalism.

[-] anoriginalthought@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Huh. Well now I have to do what I always do when confused by confounding situations: Go do some reading. It's hard for me to conceptualize what goes into someone's head to produce such a dissonant view, but it takes all types I guess. Maybe it's incomplete propagandization? Like genetic co-dominance but applied to a worldview.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, that's my experience too.

I think this also explains why Vietnam is mostly just ignored by these people. It's doing well enough that the "underdog" thing doesn't really work, and it's also not powerful enough to have all that much influence outside its own borders. Doesn't fit any sort of preconceived narrative? Just don't talk about it.

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