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The US Attacked my country...
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this post was submitted on 03 Jan 2026
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I'm sorry. What we're doing is wrong. It shouldn't be happening.
It's not "we". It's about 7 people.
It's we. It's our government. It's our country. Any action or inaction is on all US citizens.
As a Native American… no.
You get a pass.
Agreed
Settler-democratic imperialism kinda disempowered you, so your no counts big, but sadly not where it counts.
Unless you pay American tax. That's what puts the blood on your hands... Funding it. That's an unfuckwithable fact.
Lawsuits are already in place to remove tax burdens from Native Americans following the McGirt decision.
Good to hear!
Will have to look into this. Though I assume it's more for those in reservation/tribal lands? I am in the rolls but not the reservation myself.
Well, the alternative is basically suicide by starvation, suicide by other means, or becoming a mass shooter. You over-estimate how much others can do.
Fuck that, I didn't vote for the people making these decisions.
The State gets legitimised by more than just voting.
Cool, spread that blame around on every country that legitimizes the US by recognizing its sovereignty and cooperating with its military and every citizen of those countries.
EU, Russia, China, UN et al cannot legitimately make a constitution for the US. Hell, they even let West-Germany after freaking WW2 have their own constitution for a reason.
I can't make a legitimate constitution either, any amendment requires 38 of 50 states to agree! The entire system was built to disproportionately empower rural areas because we "needed" their economic support to break free from Great Britain. (And we had substantial foreign assistance in that endeavor)
Think inside the box speedrun
Forgive me if I'm not receptive of people thousands of miles away from me telling me I should go get shot by a fascist government or else it's my fault they're evil.
I'm sorry, if I made you solely responsible for "your" country's government's actions, I didn't keep attention to the handle. As I see it, federal and federating states, the two US parties are co-enabling each other and as a result, no one can really vote about a political system change. AFAIK, peaceful change has happened before, where they had some sort of constitutional assembly. Sure, given the unequal political mobilisation status atm, it seems unlikely, but if such ideas are unthinkable in the rigorous definition of the word, long term or massive violence will be likely, because no system is forever. Again, not your fault or sole responsibility, beyond "your" country identity, read: you as part of 340,110,988 people ± your sociopolitical power. Don't get shot.
You are exactly as capable of flying to Washington DC and "storming the capital" as I am and the result would be identical.
Mate, I’m 100% confident I am on a no fly list.
Likewise if you haven’t noticed, there’s something called border security and your country has been been locking people up at airports for not having ample social media accounts and talking badly about your fuhrer.
Stop making excuses for why everyone else should clean up your mess.
Come get your boy Rupert Murdoch and his spawn then since we're cleaning up our own messes, or is the architect of contemporary right-wing media control my responsibility as well?
He has been an American citizen since 1985, when he also renounced his Australian citizenship.
Or are you one of those racists who thinks immigrants never belong in their new home?
Nice b8 m8.
It's not bait, you're literally denying an immigrant their citizenship in your country and treating them like they still belong to the country they grew up in.
It's pretty sad how low you'll go to find an excuse for why Americans shouldn't have to act to stop Trump.
We do
It takes more than 7 people to produce a fighter jet.
It takes more than 7 people to launch, fly, and navigate a fighter jet.
It takes more than 7 people to kidnap an acting head of state.
The US military is complicit. The US military infustrustrial complex is complicit.
I'm not sure if I would consider US voters complicit, most of us are rendered powerless by the current electoral system, but we've sure got a lot of blood on our hands.
The us is a country of what? 400M people? Are you telling me 400M people can't just kick those 7 assholes? Nah mate, it's "you". Because if it's just 7 people, then it's still "you" who are letting them do this.
Correct.
I am an American, and I keep trying to explain to other Americans that nobody else is going to fucking care for 99% of our personal excuses, for all the details of why we are not right this very moment overthrowing our very obviously demented and evil, fascist dictatorship, which is in command of the most capable implement of devastation probably ever seen on the face of the planet.
My personal excuse is that I'm literally crippled and broke and actually can't physically do much, and I spent the last decade + warning everyone that somewhere like this was where we were headed if we didn't collectively pull our heads out of assess...
...but I entirely do not expect any sympathy or special consideration from any other country or its residents.
We had everything.
And it wasn't enough, we threw it away in for greed, overconfidence, and frankly just a lot of racism, hatred and ignorance, wanting to just really truly feel superior to ... some other kind or group of people.
We are a contemptible nation of idiot narcissist hypocrites.
Pariahs, a single generation after largely being viewed as heros.
Its truly pathetic.
You should watch "century of self" by Adam Curtis. It's on YouTube and other sites.
Even when things were "good" it wasn't honest or genuine. It was still just "the game" owned by evil.
Oh I've been rewatching that whole series, at least once a year, for around a decade now.
Same with the original Cosmos, a few other kind of similar gems.
Those were the kinds of things I tried, and failed, to inform other people of, why they were important.
Vast majority of people didn't care, told me I was overworrying and being catastrophic or conspiratorial.
...
Anyway, your user name.
God?
God was a dream a good government.
He fulfilled the innate social desire of humans to judge, and be judged. Without some way of fulfilling that desire, the cohesion of human groups is impossible.
God is a dream of order and purpose.
-- paraphrased/bastardized from the prototype AI Morpheus, Deus Ex, 2001.
We weren't any better societally with a collective agreement on God, from the history I've seen at least.
It's a fantastic scene in deus ex, though.
We will indeed soon have our new God, and we are indeed building it with our own hands.
What was it, a week ago, Joe Rogan is seriously positing the idea that... if Jesus came back, he'd come back as an AI?
The tech C suites clearly are already members of the AI-God cult, get ready for that kinda thing to get more and more common amongst us proles.
Cults tend proliferate in times of great change, hardship, and uncertainty, and quite literally, any half charismatic wacko can just make one up.
400M people distributed over an insanely large landmass with low population density and sky-high levels of income inequality preventing ease of travel to DC. Also representation is incredibly distorted depending on state of residence and direct citizen influence at the national level is nonexistent.
Nope. I'm doing my part. The general public isn't personally hurting enough to take action. People are generally selfish when it comes to caring, if they have food, shelter, relative safety, etc. then they don't care about anything else. All of that is starting to go away, which is why we're seeing more and more actively protesting, but it's still not enough. It's growing though.
Also it's not 7 people enforcing it, it's 7 people making the decision in the first place. The State has a monopoly on violence, and they use it to prevent the People from doing anything about their decisions. That's why democracy was such an amazing invention, since it allowed non-violent decision changes.
those who cannot reach the grapes claim they are sour, while those who have tasted them many times feels no pity for the ones who cannot until they too need help from those they neglected
If you stand by and let bad things happen you are also a bad person
The watcher is as guilty as the one who committed the crime.
But you would make a bad decision; you would not be a bad person.
We should have thrown ourselves in front of the army to stop this I guess
We could've talked it out instead of bombing a country that didn't even deserve it. Without killing innocent people, destroying dozens of homes and taking a president and his wife from their country by force. Minimizing the effect and after-effect is a form of defence and your--my--and all American's part in this.
Until you happen to live in an area where maga garbage outnumber you 100-1. Then you're the one feeling unsafe leaving your home every day.
ok baby boy, keep up your keyboard warrior skills
No, it's all Americans that pay tax. You can't even fuck with that fact. We made this possible.
No, it’s ‘we’.
Voting is important.