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This sucks, and might be the reason I return to Reddit. This pretty much splits the Lemmy population in two halves
Except not really. I created a new account on lemmy.world once I saw the notice they were defederating. I'm sure I won't be the only one to do that. I liked what they were trying to do over at beehaw but I don't like being cut off from 2 of the biggest instances.
I hope youβre right. Iβm just afraid .ml users will see no reason to leave the beehaw communities
If lemmy.ml gets big enough I wouldn't be surprised if beehaw blocks them too. Alternatively what I see happening is that communities will be created here to replace the ones that were on beehaw. I see more people joining an instance that isn't so restrictive which will make the communities bigger than the ones on beehaw
The beehaw communities won't be able to have posts from sh.itjust.works and from lemmy.world, those communities will suffer as a huge chunk of contributors were just blocked.
Why would lemmy.ml users want to stay in communities that were just shot in the foot by their admins?
Not really, I'm sure there are other Lemmy instances that have access to both. I'm on kbin for example and can see and interact with lemmy.world, beehaw.org, and sh.itjust.works.
Federation on kbin only just started working (it was disabled due to server load). Once kbin posts start showing up on beehaw they'll probably defederate kbin too, since kbin is also open registration
Yeah, but at the moment, beehaw, ml, world and shitjustworks are the 4 biggest lemmy servers. Now, beehaw and ml will stay on the beehaw communities, while world and shotjustworks will have to split out into new ones
AFAIK this isn't a permanent thing, they just need to catch up on how they're going to mod it all so if they get some more mods or better modding tools they sound like they're willing to federate again.
Or you can have an account on other than the 4 big servers and still be able to see and interact with all content.
This only solves the problem for you. It doesn't solve the problem for the community, nor does it scale well (if everyone does it, then you're just gonna repeat the same dance over and over).
I mean if the users of one big instance would be on 100 smaller ones, it would provide a more granular ability to defederate.
I'm only pointing out that the whole idea of the Fediverse would be to register wherever, where you feel "at home" with like-minded users instead of just making an account at the biggest server, as that makes managing the network untenable.
I'm just saying this is one of the reasons there shouldn't be a "big 4" of instances. Especially as the Beehaw guys seem to be acting out their powermod fantasies.
No it doesnt. Lemmy has 130k users Kbin has 30k. Beehaw and lemmy.world have 30k combined. Everyone will still be able to see posts from both of those instances. Most of us have only been here for a few days so switching servers is not a big deal if you happened to create your account on beehaw or lemmy.world.