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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Never heard of a decompiler I see.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A decompiler doesnt give you access to the comments, variable names, which is an important part of every source code

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, AI is having a heyday with it...

https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.09029

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's cool is that you can interpret the var names yourself and rename them whatever you want.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

But it is extremely time-consuming. Open source code makes it transparent and easy to read, that's what it is about: transparency

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A decompiler won't give you the source code. Just some code that might not even necessarily work when compiled back.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

From the point of view of the decompiler machine code is indeed the source code though

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

And? Decompilers aren't for noobs. So what if it gives you variable and function names like A000, A001, etc?

It can still lead a seasoned programmer where to go in the raw machine code to mod some things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try converting from English to Japanese and back to English.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A fancy way to say do nothing is not the same as translating back and forth. Example: Show me the intermediate translation.

Also we live in a 64bit world now old man

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
GF2P8AFFINEINVQB xmm1, xmm2, 10
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Also that instruction does not do nothing, it resets the CPU register to zero without having to access RAM. Far from a NOP instruction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still not the actual source code, bucko.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's actually better when you can read the machine code.

Most folks don't care to recompile the whole thing when all they wanna do is bypass the activation and tracker shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Having access to the source code actually makes reading machine code easier, so you're also wrong on this entirely different thing you're going on about.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've clearly never used a disassembler such as HIEW have you? You get the entire breakdown of the assembly code.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disassemble binaries daily for work. It's still not the same as source code.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I didn't say it was. I just said loosely what the OG meme said, if you know how to read assembly, you know how to read (and write) what some of the code does.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said disassembly or decompiling was easier in any way. I'll agree with you on that, it's way more difficult.

Back to the point of the meme though, if you can read assembly, you can read it all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You've never actually compared source code to its compiled output, have you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I've written drivers in 65 bytes of code. I don't tend to use high level languages that hide what's going on behind the scenes.