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Shout out to my engineering homies. (mander.xyz)

submitted 2 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/science_memes@mander.xyz

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[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This you?

If you’re working for a western arms manufacturer you can be pretty certain your products will end up in Israel too.

Yes, that's me. Maybe the bit you're missing is that if you work at a company, the company's products are your products.

So what you mean is "If you're working for a major Western company, period, you're in the wrong." Since the list of Western companies that don't do business with Israel is very small.

No, that's not what I mean, and I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. There is a material difference between providing Israel with military equipment and with some random consumer product that is just distributed everywhere. Sure, I'd argue it's still wrong to do the latter, but it's still a huge difference.

[-] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

I don't know man. Even cell phones seem pretty dangerous in Israeli hands.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes, that’s me. Maybe the bit you’re missing is that if you work at a company, the company’s products are your products.

I'll be sure to tell the janitor.

It's like you don't even understand the core moral dilemma of being an engineer working for a military supplier.

No, that’s not what I mean, and I’d appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.

So this isn't you?

We were at “working for companies profiting from genocide is wrong” and we’ve started right there.

Or is this not actually where we are or were at, and this line is complete disingenuous bullshit?

There is a material difference between providing Israel with military equipment and with some random consumer product that is just distributed everywhere. Sure, I’d argue it’s still wrong to do the latter, but it’s still a huge difference.

Ah, of course, if you're enabling the genocide through non-military means, it's okay. I mean, it's not like supplying Israel with goods frees up more of Israel's resources for military production and action.