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[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (61 children) PEMDAS bitches. permalink fedilink source hideshow 61 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 months ago (50 children) It's interesting that you can somewhat tell where you are from based on this, I learned it as BODMAS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 50 child comments replies: [–] radioactivefunguy@piefed.ca 5 points 10 months ago (39 children) O - oxponent? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 39 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (37 children) Orders. Brackets, Orders (powers and roots), Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction This is fucking so many people over... It should be limited - like Orders - to only Multiplication and Addition. Because division is the same operation as multiplication, and subtraction is the same operation as addition, and they have the same "weight" in the order of operations (meaning, you do them left-to-right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) Another commenter mentioned something similar, how they're interchangeable, but I'm not sure why you say it's fucking people over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) Because the people who learn "DM" or "MD" then spend hours online arguing that you must do one before the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago People do be arguing, lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Did you mean MD and DM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (31 replies) [–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago O - oxponent? To the Order of. 2² is 2 to the order of 2 permalink fedilink source parent [–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I learned BODMAS too! It seems BIDMAS is another one (British I think), PEMDAS is the weird American one, BEDMAS is a thing too. You're able to vary the first letter (parenthesis or brackets), second letter (indices/exponent/"order" or "operation"), and the order of multiplication/division (MS or SM) and addition/SUBTRACTION (AD or DA) Very interesting indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago We need a super position of all of them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Endmaker@ani.social 1 point 10 months ago (7 children) Where are pemdas and bodmas users from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DavidGA@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (5 children) Pemdas, USA. Bodmas, UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] azi@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago BEDMAS, Canada permalink fedilink source parent [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) I think most former British colonies use BODMAS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children) But the USA seems to use PEMDAS? I'm confused now... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) They mean Commonwealth countries more precisely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, my bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago It talks about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Mnemonics permalink fedilink source parent [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago (7 children) I never ran into PEMDAS while growing up, in Sweden I've always been taught of it as the following order of operations: P E & Roots M & D A & S permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) Technically roots are a form of exponent, just fractional (square root is power of 1/2, for instance). I can see how it could be easier to conceptualize when you break it down like that though. Neat to see the differences compared to the US breakdown :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago Technically we go for 2. Powers & Roots, I just didn't want to break the PEMDAS when comparing. :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago (3 children) That's PEMDAS... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) They aren't using the same words so the shorthand (if they have one) is different. I don't think we had a shorthand for it either, we just learned it. And we learned them in groups numbered like the Swedes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) Okay then, but, fun story, the BODMAS they're talking about is also just PEMDAS using different words and a different listed order for multiplication/division, with the understanding that it's more properly PE(MD)(AS) The order of operations is the important bit and everyone learns it that way. What causes the arguments is when dummies online forget that M+D or A+S can theoretically be done properly in any order and that part is a matter of preference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 10 months ago The disadvantage of a shorthand compared to just a numbered list might be that people think it's strictly one after the another instead of groups permalink fedilink source parent [–] stray@pawb.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) e: Wanted to see if this is a thing in English. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agedcorn@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally... bitches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 months ago (50 children) It's interesting that you can somewhat tell where you are from based on this, I learned it as BODMAS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 50 child comments replies: [–] radioactivefunguy@piefed.ca 5 points 10 months ago (39 children) O - oxponent? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 39 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (37 children) Orders. Brackets, Orders (powers and roots), Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction This is fucking so many people over... It should be limited - like Orders - to only Multiplication and Addition. Because division is the same operation as multiplication, and subtraction is the same operation as addition, and they have the same "weight" in the order of operations (meaning, you do them left-to-right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) Another commenter mentioned something similar, how they're interchangeable, but I'm not sure why you say it's fucking people over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) Because the people who learn "DM" or "MD" then spend hours online arguing that you must do one before the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago People do be arguing, lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Did you mean MD and DM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (31 replies) [–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago O - oxponent? To the Order of. 2² is 2 to the order of 2 permalink fedilink source parent [–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I learned BODMAS too! It seems BIDMAS is another one (British I think), PEMDAS is the weird American one, BEDMAS is a thing too. You're able to vary the first letter (parenthesis or brackets), second letter (indices/exponent/"order" or "operation"), and the order of multiplication/division (MS or SM) and addition/SUBTRACTION (AD or DA) Very interesting indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago We need a super position of all of them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Endmaker@ani.social 1 point 10 months ago (7 children) Where are pemdas and bodmas users from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DavidGA@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (5 children) Pemdas, USA. Bodmas, UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] azi@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago BEDMAS, Canada permalink fedilink source parent [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) I think most former British colonies use BODMAS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children) But the USA seems to use PEMDAS? I'm confused now... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) They mean Commonwealth countries more precisely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, my bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago It talks about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Mnemonics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] radioactivefunguy@piefed.ca 5 points 10 months ago (39 children) O - oxponent? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 39 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (37 children) Orders. Brackets, Orders (powers and roots), Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction This is fucking so many people over... It should be limited - like Orders - to only Multiplication and Addition. Because division is the same operation as multiplication, and subtraction is the same operation as addition, and they have the same "weight" in the order of operations (meaning, you do them left-to-right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) Another commenter mentioned something similar, how they're interchangeable, but I'm not sure why you say it's fucking people over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) Because the people who learn "DM" or "MD" then spend hours online arguing that you must do one before the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago People do be arguing, lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Did you mean MD and DM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (31 replies) [–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago O - oxponent? To the Order of. 2² is 2 to the order of 2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (37 children) Orders. Brackets, Orders (powers and roots), Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction This is fucking so many people over... It should be limited - like Orders - to only Multiplication and Addition. Because division is the same operation as multiplication, and subtraction is the same operation as addition, and they have the same "weight" in the order of operations (meaning, you do them left-to-right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) Another commenter mentioned something similar, how they're interchangeable, but I'm not sure why you say it's fucking people over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) Because the people who learn "DM" or "MD" then spend hours online arguing that you must do one before the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago People do be arguing, lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Did you mean MD and DM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (31 replies)
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction This is fucking so many people over... It should be limited - like Orders - to only Multiplication and Addition. Because division is the same operation as multiplication, and subtraction is the same operation as addition, and they have the same "weight" in the order of operations (meaning, you do them left-to-right). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) Another commenter mentioned something similar, how they're interchangeable, but I'm not sure why you say it's fucking people over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) Because the people who learn "DM" or "MD" then spend hours online arguing that you must do one before the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago People do be arguing, lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Did you mean MD and DM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (31 replies)
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (4 children) Another commenter mentioned something similar, how they're interchangeable, but I'm not sure why you say it's fucking people over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) Because the people who learn "DM" or "MD" then spend hours online arguing that you must do one before the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago People do be arguing, lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Did you mean MD and DM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) Because the people who learn "DM" or "MD" then spend hours online arguing that you must do one before the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago People do be arguing, lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Did you mean MD and DM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago People do be arguing, lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Did you mean MD and DM? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* Yeyeye, sorry, long day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago O - oxponent? To the Order of. 2² is 2 to the order of 2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I learned BODMAS too! It seems BIDMAS is another one (British I think), PEMDAS is the weird American one, BEDMAS is a thing too. You're able to vary the first letter (parenthesis or brackets), second letter (indices/exponent/"order" or "operation"), and the order of multiplication/division (MS or SM) and addition/SUBTRACTION (AD or DA) Very interesting indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago We need a super position of all of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago We need a super position of all of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Endmaker@ani.social 1 point 10 months ago (7 children) Where are pemdas and bodmas users from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DavidGA@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (5 children) Pemdas, USA. Bodmas, UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] azi@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago BEDMAS, Canada permalink fedilink source parent [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) I think most former British colonies use BODMAS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children) But the USA seems to use PEMDAS? I'm confused now... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) They mean Commonwealth countries more precisely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, my bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago It talks about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Mnemonics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DavidGA@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (5 children) Pemdas, USA. Bodmas, UK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] azi@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago BEDMAS, Canada permalink fedilink source parent [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) I think most former British colonies use BODMAS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children) But the USA seems to use PEMDAS? I'm confused now... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) They mean Commonwealth countries more precisely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, my bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) I think most former British colonies use BODMAS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children) But the USA seems to use PEMDAS? I'm confused now... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) They mean Commonwealth countries more precisely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, my bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children) But the USA seems to use PEMDAS? I'm confused now... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) They mean Commonwealth countries more precisely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, my bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) They mean Commonwealth countries more precisely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, my bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, my bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago It talks about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Mnemonics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago (7 children) I never ran into PEMDAS while growing up, in Sweden I've always been taught of it as the following order of operations: P E & Roots M & D A & S permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) Technically roots are a form of exponent, just fractional (square root is power of 1/2, for instance). I can see how it could be easier to conceptualize when you break it down like that though. Neat to see the differences compared to the US breakdown :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago Technically we go for 2. Powers & Roots, I just didn't want to break the PEMDAS when comparing. :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago (3 children) That's PEMDAS... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) They aren't using the same words so the shorthand (if they have one) is different. I don't think we had a shorthand for it either, we just learned it. And we learned them in groups numbered like the Swedes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) Okay then, but, fun story, the BODMAS they're talking about is also just PEMDAS using different words and a different listed order for multiplication/division, with the understanding that it's more properly PE(MD)(AS) The order of operations is the important bit and everyone learns it that way. What causes the arguments is when dummies online forget that M+D or A+S can theoretically be done properly in any order and that part is a matter of preference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 10 months ago The disadvantage of a shorthand compared to just a numbered list might be that people think it's strictly one after the another instead of groups permalink fedilink source parent [–] stray@pawb.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) e: Wanted to see if this is a thing in English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) Technically roots are a form of exponent, just fractional (square root is power of 1/2, for instance). I can see how it could be easier to conceptualize when you break it down like that though. Neat to see the differences compared to the US breakdown :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago Technically we go for 2. Powers & Roots, I just didn't want to break the PEMDAS when comparing. :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago Technically we go for 2. Powers & Roots, I just didn't want to break the PEMDAS when comparing. :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago (3 children) That's PEMDAS... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) They aren't using the same words so the shorthand (if they have one) is different. I don't think we had a shorthand for it either, we just learned it. And we learned them in groups numbered like the Swedes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) Okay then, but, fun story, the BODMAS they're talking about is also just PEMDAS using different words and a different listed order for multiplication/division, with the understanding that it's more properly PE(MD)(AS) The order of operations is the important bit and everyone learns it that way. What causes the arguments is when dummies online forget that M+D or A+S can theoretically be done properly in any order and that part is a matter of preference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 10 months ago The disadvantage of a shorthand compared to just a numbered list might be that people think it's strictly one after the another instead of groups permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) They aren't using the same words so the shorthand (if they have one) is different. I don't think we had a shorthand for it either, we just learned it. And we learned them in groups numbered like the Swedes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) Okay then, but, fun story, the BODMAS they're talking about is also just PEMDAS using different words and a different listed order for multiplication/division, with the understanding that it's more properly PE(MD)(AS) The order of operations is the important bit and everyone learns it that way. What causes the arguments is when dummies online forget that M+D or A+S can theoretically be done properly in any order and that part is a matter of preference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 10 months ago The disadvantage of a shorthand compared to just a numbered list might be that people think it's strictly one after the another instead of groups permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) Okay then, but, fun story, the BODMAS they're talking about is also just PEMDAS using different words and a different listed order for multiplication/division, with the understanding that it's more properly PE(MD)(AS) The order of operations is the important bit and everyone learns it that way. What causes the arguments is when dummies online forget that M+D or A+S can theoretically be done properly in any order and that part is a matter of preference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 10 months ago The disadvantage of a shorthand compared to just a numbered list might be that people think it's strictly one after the another instead of groups permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 10 months ago The disadvantage of a shorthand compared to just a numbered list might be that people think it's strictly one after the another instead of groups permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stray@pawb.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) e: Wanted to see if this is a thing in English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agedcorn@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally... bitches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
