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Yes but those PC's are not being sold as new. This is a bad argument.
I think it’s a good metric to let people know that the machine can hold its own and will likely be the kind of specs that developers will target.
A factual statement doesn't have to be an argument
This all depends on the pricepoint, is it sold at half price to that of an average modern computer, then it is a great argument for people on a budget
Sure, but imagine how many money you've thrown over the years, I know I have thrown a LOT.
I put together a minimum spec pc for $100, so it depends on how much better it is for me. HP Z240 office machine plus an rx480 8gb.
Based on the news saying the Steam Machine should be roughly equivalent to an RX 7600, it's going to be 2.5x faster than an RX480. I don't really think that's a comparable PC at all.
I'm just saying that you can build a decent pc for $100-$300 with older components or even just use a laptop. That's why the average hardware is so much lower. The steam machine is estimated to be around $750.
Well, you get what you pay for. A $100-300 PC and a $500-750 PC are not really competing with each other when what you get is an order of magnitude faster with one of them.
A useful comparison would either try and match performance at a lower price, or match price at a higher performance.
I don't think most people notice the performance difference when it comes to fps or even resolution unless things are stuttering or slowing down. I definitely think value is something to consider, especially because most people play games that don't require high performance.
It entirely depends on what you're doing with the computer. Sure people won't notice a difference between a game running at 60 vs 70 fps, but that card is going to struggle with modern games. From a quick search it sounds like it will barely hit 60fps in Cyberpunk at min settings 1080p.
I'm sure your 10 year old card will have no problem playing 10 year old games. If that's all you play, then you're right, you don't need to spend any more.
An RX 7600 vs RX 480 could be the difference between something running at stuttering 25 fps and something running at smooth 60 fps. Or it could be the difference between running on min quality vs high settings, it all depends on the workload.
Yup. I was happily using an RX 480 up until maybe a year or two ago. I'm sure it would still be perfectly good for most current games, aside from any intentionally pushing the limits.