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[+] -31 points 10 months ago (29 children)

Well now we've moved on to another topic, the claim of blatant corruption of Nancy Pelosi, can you cite an example of that?

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (18 children)

    They didn't change topic, you just didn't like the answer they gave.

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago* (17 children)

    I think we both moved naturally in this direction, didn't accuse them of "changing the topic."

    I think it's important to mention Pelosi never traded any stocks. Her sin was marrying a stock broker and having joint assets starting in college and refusing to ban that very act from congress. Many times this resulted in going against her husbands and her own interests, such as when she voted to regulate VISA despite them selling Paul a lucrative stock option, or the years where they actually operated at a net loss.

    Now, if you were to complain about something else like her general disposition towards Republicans from the moment she was sworn: her awful nonpartisan confirmation speech, or her often crossing of the aisle into red territory, then you would be making fair criticisms. Instead everybody sits here and pretends that theres ome huge financial scheme going on with no evidence at all of corruption.

    Because FOX news told you so.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    Who the fuck watches Fox News besides boomers?

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    Well let me enlighten you, the anti-pelosi posts and comments sound 100% exactly like those fucks at Fox News.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    As we all know, she's perfect and never did anything wrong.

    And I don't even have cable, let alone a subscription to the fascist drivel of Fox News. The bastard who invented it should be hanged.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (13 children)

    Every election she runs against one of those fascists and I hope with every fiber of my being that she and every other democrat wins. If you can support her primary opponents then great, do so, I will support you, but if your only contribution is to convince people the party is a bunch of crooks, with zero evidence to support it, then I will argue with you.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    The entire party? No.

    Her? Yes. Inside trading is illegal, and all of Congress gets away with it

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago* (11 children)

    What insider trade did she make? Because of legislation she helped pass, all of her husband's trades are public, go find one.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (8 children)

    There are multiple sources that you could quite easily look up yourself, but here is a website detailing most of them including dates and the exact trades and the amounts.

    https://insider-trading.org/the-nancy-pelosi-insider-trading-controversy/

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    Let's look at it, then!

    Pelosi’s stock trading controversy first entered the spotlight in 2011. That year, a 60 Minutes investigative report exposed how members of Congress (including Pelosi) might be profiting from insider knowledge

    One example was a March 2008 stock purchase by the Pelosis. They got a special allocation of 5,000 shares of Visa at its IPO price of $44, at the very same time Congress was considering legislation that would have hit credit card companies’ profits.

    Just two days later, Visa’s stock price jumped to $64, netting a quick gain, and notably, the credit card regulation bill never made it to a vote in the House. This revelation, that powerful lawmakers could access hot stock deals while overseeing related legislation, didn’t sit well with the public.

    Except it did make it to vote, and Pelosi voted to pass the new regulations.

    The Credit Cardholders Bill of Rights in September 2008 passed both chambers in 2009 and was signed by President Obama. Pelosi voted to pass it.

    Also of note is that VISA met directly with Paul Pelosi at his brokerage and never with Nancy.

    Do you need me to present that in article form? I'm sure seeing me think for myself must seem entirely foreign to you.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    So then logically, she voted with her party after her husband both purchased and later sold stock at the exact correct times (by your own admission) to profit off things both coming and going.

    And all of the rest of those listings are all... Just lucky. Over and over again.

    And somehow, even without those listings, the performance of her portfolio is... Just a coincidence and shrewd trading at a level that outperforms everyone else thousands of times over.

    Got it.

    But yeah, everyone else is easily fooled by Trump somehow. In 2011. Where the investigation was carried out by 60 Minutes for some reason.

    Brilliant deductive work.

    This is some MAGA-level bending yourself into knots to suck yourself off.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    This is some MAGA-level bending yourself into knots to suck yourself off.

    Welcome to Banjo, he is Blue MAGA. Pelosi can't do any wrong, woke leftists Russian backed leftists lied. Support my party or you're UNAMERICAN!

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Selling a stock after holding it for exactly two days hardly constitutes a conspiracy, you're really grasping at straws with your "exact right time" assumption. You would have an easier time claiming VISA manipulated prices to make a bribe, but at the end of the day Nancy Pelosi voted and passed laws against monied interests.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child)

    So then yes to everything I said before then. Yes it was all a coincidence. Yes it was sold at exactly the right time after purchasing it exactly the right point in a VERY tight period of time. Totally out of the blue. Several hundred times given her stock portfolio.

    Listen, if you're not even going to pretend to be believable, then I don't think we need to continue this.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pelosi-beat-market-581-162100416.html

    A New York Post analysis revealed that before first taking office in 1987, Pelosi and her husband reported between $610,000 and $785,000 in stocks in their portfolio — worth $133.7 million today, according to the latest estimates from Quiver Quantitative (2).

    That means that Nancy Pelosi made a 16,930%, blasting past 2,300% for the Dow Jones over the same period of 37 years.

    She didn't do that well without inside information about laws that would affect the stock market. A simple google search would have provided the figures, and logical reasoning would lead most to that conclusion. Stop with your bad faith bullshit.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I hate her too but she is by far not the only one. Why everyone focuses on her for stock trading is beyond me.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Because Republican voters ignore all the Republican politicians that do it, and Democratic voters are also sick of her actively blocking the attempts to make it illegal while she was speaker. Multiple times

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago*

    George Soros made a billion dollars in a day. Melvin Capital lost billions and shuttered. Things like this happen to brokers.

    I think stock trading should be banned for politicians, but I think its sill to ban Nancy Pelosi for having married one. She was never going to vote for that and I can't blame her.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Seriously? Can you come up with a single example of something she accomplished that wasn't because of corporate interest?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    He is blindly loyal to every NeoLiberal, so they have no corruption. It's like how Trump can't be corrupt when MAGA brainwashed them into loyal cult members.

    Any crimes they did is good, anyone who says otherwise is anti American.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    She wrote and passed the Affordable Care Act

    She created the “Select Committee on Energy Independence & Global Warming” which lasted from 2007 until Republicans dismantled it after gaining majority in 2010

    She toured Asia and showed support for Taiwan and Tibet in opposition of China

    After VISA offered her husband, a lifelong stock broker, a very lucrative stock option she voted against their interests anyways

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    OK, let's start with the first one. The one that was written by the Heritage Foundation, the makers of Project 2025, that increased the stock price of every major health insurance company, and killed any chance for a universal health care plan. The one that left 30mil Americans uninsured, and another 90mil Americans under-insured. That one?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    The version of the bill that passed the house was based on Stanford professor Alain Enthoven’s proposal in 1978 to use the federal employee benefits program as a model for a national health care program. Here is the Heritage Foundation dismissing that conspiracy theory.

    The ACA increased healthcare coverage by tens of millions of Americans andade it illegal to discriminate based on preexisting conditions.

    And if not for Independent Joe Lieberman and Every Single Republican, it would have instead been passed as public option and function virtually the same way as Germany's healthcare system.

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