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[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

ICE is a huge risk for a traveller. They're running as a lawless gang. No accountability.

I want my vacation to be fun but there is a non-zero chance of getting nabbed by ICE in the US. Combine that with the US policy of any idiot can and should own a gun.

The US is a crazy 2nd world shithole and doesn't offer anything worth the risks.

[-] GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Just a point of order:

The terms First, Second and Third World were cold war references to the power blocs (Allies, Soviets, unaligned).

If you mean to say backsliding in terms of development, say that.

Third world is an inaccurate description for 'undeveloped' countries.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Third world is an inaccurate description for ‘undeveloped’ countries.

a better description is "shithole".

[-] GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago
[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

That's the thing with language it evolves to mean other things. Everyone equates "3rd world l" to mean poorly developed /or dirty/ or destitute, now.

Like the UK uses hoovering to mean vacuuming, because Hoover was the go to brand in them old days.

Just let people use words how they want LOL

[-] GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, skibidi 6 7 to you, then.

If we are going to have a conversation about an important topic, we have to use up to date terminology to do so. Third world ain't it. The USA was the fricking anchorpiece of the First World. Calling it third world is just lazy and stupid. I won't stand for it.

[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Calling it third world is just lazy and stupid. I won’t stand for it.

Well, good thing I called it a "2nd world shithole" then.

[-] GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

That would mean aligned with Russia. So...not exactly wrong any more, I guess? Lol

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

Were you sitting down when you wrote that 😀

I get your frustration, (fr me its when people and programs use font, really its a typeface, and font is something else) but people have moved on, 3rd world now means No Healthcare, lack of education, contaminated water, etc. And the USA is moving into that realm.

[-] GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ha, and I actually used to know the difference between typeface and font, but my memory of graphic design classes has waned a bit since 2005 when I took that program in college, so I had to look it up and refresh myself, full disclosure. More to the point - I think we can both agree that USA is democratically backsliding. Part of that is a lack of education being trusted by many. If we can't even remember what terms like First and Second World were supposed to mean, it just feeds into the misinformation maelstrom that produces far-right types calling anything exhibiting human decency "communist", "woke", or other inaccurate terms meant to belittle them.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago
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