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[–] [email protected] 322 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Who would have expected this? Surprised pikachu

But the only one who opposed Putin (with any military power) being dead isn't necessary a good thing (imho)

[–] [email protected] 203 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, but he was stripped of all of his power. Wagner group is being rolled into the state military. The opportunity for Wagner to push back and or give Putin the boot has passed.

And, this dude was also an evil corrupt piece of shit. If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He was a straight-up Neo-Nazi and named the group after Hitler's favorite composer. So yeah, he would have been infinitely worse than Putin... and that's saying something.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When Bellingcat says that's not Dmitry Utkin, I listen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

LOL. You're hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wagners are straight up fleeing into neighboring countries and Africa. They must have read the history books about what happens when one warlord assimilates another's forces (they kill them quietly and easily now that they're disarmed).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

i don't think, russia and historical knowledge can come together

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

He would at least cause a schism between the putin fanatics and everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the only one who opposed Putin (with any military power) being dead isn’t necessary a good thing (imho)

Replacing one dictator with another who has the support of something like the Wagner group would not have been good for anyone but the Wagner group.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There would be no clean replacement. It would get very bloody and chaotic. Not a bad hypothetical scenario. But that ship has sailed when Prihozhin surrendered (he didn't stand much of a chance anyway).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If we could avoid another "oops, all Taliban" outcome though, that would be grand.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

The most surprising thing here is that nine people were willing to get on a plane with Prigozhin. That's arguably much closer to actual suicide than any of the convenient window deaths that keep happening.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good thing for Africa for sure.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not really. Meet your new boss, same as your old boss. Russia isn't pulling out of Africa.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly more missiles are needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The Sahel is full of oil and minerals so the "war on terror" is in full swing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Somehow I always thought they would poison him. More personal. But if he brought his own water, I suppose this saves everybody some time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's not too late for them to identify the body by the "Polonium-210 tracer" he got during check-in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I honestly thought he’d go via the classic window fall, but this was far more original.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's not like Putin and his closest cronies are in any way competent. They are removing anyone who dared to criticize. Before the coup Prigozhin, Girkin were allowed to say whatever they wanted as long as they did not undermine the general effort. Now Putin's inner circle will ultimately disconnect themselves from reality: govern the country and the war from a bunker filled with scared yes-sayers with no alternative voices.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure Ukraine still opposes Putin so at least we got that.