Firstly they did not even know that musical festival was taking place.
Why does this matter. Would Israels reaction be different? They wanted to genocide from the beginning.
Secondly they are not “civilians” they are settlers illegally occupying Palestinian land. With the understanding that they would be protected by their government.
They are evil fascists, but that doesn't make them combatants.
lastly they are not a “religious extremist organization” even if they once had been.
Do you have a source on this? I am open to changing my position on this.
So here you are legitimizing violence of a settler colonial ethnostate as “self defense” That statement is very broad.
I am legitimizing specific violence of a settler colonial ethnostate as “self defense”. I think they are in their right to dismantle Hamas using violence. But what they have done has far surpassed that. I think Israel has the ability to arrest/kidnap and try high ranking members of Hamas. I think that would be a reasonable response to October 7th. But they did the worst possible thing and I don't condone that.
I was far too generous before. I wish the same upon you as I do on the IDF.
Oh yeah, my belief that Israel is a fascist genocidal state surely makes me morally equivalent to IDF. These nuanced replies I am making is like I am out there killing Palestinian babies my self. Sure!
I have finally concluded, upon reading this yet another time, that this is the key statement. It's just a case of terminal liberal rule-following brain. Right and wrong don't exist, only lawful and unlawful. Some militants who grew up in a concentration camp killed some settlers having a party next to it who they didn't expect to encounter, likely in a moment of rage or some other unknowable circumstance, but it was against the rules so Hamas as a whole is CANCELLED. Nuance is only afforded to the fascist occupying army committing genocide, because they're the ones with a UN seat, I guess.
It's amazing, this comment is aging like fine /c/Slop wine as I come back to it. It has so many unexamined biases and internal contradictions.