▲ 1425 ▼ No doubt (lemmy.world) submitted 11 months ago by ickplant@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 136 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (1 child) The Lazarus pit in the city spewing chemicals into the water supply. All the other chemicals likely in the water supply from a wide array of sources, including regular pollution and goofy shit. Fixing contaminants to the water supply is absolutely something proper taxes should be able to solve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (2 children) Key word, Should. If taxes actually went where people say it does, it might. And even then, it'd also take a lot of funding outside of just taxes, not to mention someone to actually start doing stuff about with all that funding. Also note on that list is rampant corruption and criminal syndicates mingling with the government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) I think you underestimate the power of actual taxes, say if we taxed billionaires and corporations. Or you may be arguing, as Marx did in Das Kapital that democracy and self-government are incompatible with capitalism. With some qualifications, I'd agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I am absolutely arguing that. The rich in actual mid-to-south New York and elsewhere aren't actually taxed, why would the rich in Gotham be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* Well in the case of Bruce Wayne, as an allegedly ethical billionaire, he'd pay his fair share of taxes wouldn't he? Or he'd spend that money dressing as a bat and punching poor people. I think the Batman fiction depends on the notion of ethically rich. Heck, even the bible challenges the notion over fifteen centuries ago. 🐪🪡💰 ETA: TBF variations of Robin Hood are aristocracy, as was the Scarlet Pimpernel, and I think Zorro was as well. So Bats is not the first rich superhero by far. permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago If taxes actually went into a big pile of money we set on fire, they would still solve the pollution problem. The pollution solution is to internalize its external cost. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (2 children) Key word, Should. If taxes actually went where people say it does, it might. And even then, it'd also take a lot of funding outside of just taxes, not to mention someone to actually start doing stuff about with all that funding. Also note on that list is rampant corruption and criminal syndicates mingling with the government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) I think you underestimate the power of actual taxes, say if we taxed billionaires and corporations. Or you may be arguing, as Marx did in Das Kapital that democracy and self-government are incompatible with capitalism. With some qualifications, I'd agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I am absolutely arguing that. The rich in actual mid-to-south New York and elsewhere aren't actually taxed, why would the rich in Gotham be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* Well in the case of Bruce Wayne, as an allegedly ethical billionaire, he'd pay his fair share of taxes wouldn't he? Or he'd spend that money dressing as a bat and punching poor people. I think the Batman fiction depends on the notion of ethically rich. Heck, even the bible challenges the notion over fifteen centuries ago. 🐪🪡💰 ETA: TBF variations of Robin Hood are aristocracy, as was the Scarlet Pimpernel, and I think Zorro was as well. So Bats is not the first rich superhero by far. permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago If taxes actually went into a big pile of money we set on fire, they would still solve the pollution problem. The pollution solution is to internalize its external cost. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) I think you underestimate the power of actual taxes, say if we taxed billionaires and corporations. Or you may be arguing, as Marx did in Das Kapital that democracy and self-government are incompatible with capitalism. With some qualifications, I'd agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I am absolutely arguing that. The rich in actual mid-to-south New York and elsewhere aren't actually taxed, why would the rich in Gotham be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* Well in the case of Bruce Wayne, as an allegedly ethical billionaire, he'd pay his fair share of taxes wouldn't he? Or he'd spend that money dressing as a bat and punching poor people. I think the Batman fiction depends on the notion of ethically rich. Heck, even the bible challenges the notion over fifteen centuries ago. 🐪🪡💰 ETA: TBF variations of Robin Hood are aristocracy, as was the Scarlet Pimpernel, and I think Zorro was as well. So Bats is not the first rich superhero by far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I am absolutely arguing that. The rich in actual mid-to-south New York and elsewhere aren't actually taxed, why would the rich in Gotham be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* Well in the case of Bruce Wayne, as an allegedly ethical billionaire, he'd pay his fair share of taxes wouldn't he? Or he'd spend that money dressing as a bat and punching poor people. I think the Batman fiction depends on the notion of ethically rich. Heck, even the bible challenges the notion over fifteen centuries ago. 🐪🪡💰 ETA: TBF variations of Robin Hood are aristocracy, as was the Scarlet Pimpernel, and I think Zorro was as well. So Bats is not the first rich superhero by far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago* Well in the case of Bruce Wayne, as an allegedly ethical billionaire, he'd pay his fair share of taxes wouldn't he? Or he'd spend that money dressing as a bat and punching poor people. I think the Batman fiction depends on the notion of ethically rich. Heck, even the bible challenges the notion over fifteen centuries ago. 🐪🪡💰 ETA: TBF variations of Robin Hood are aristocracy, as was the Scarlet Pimpernel, and I think Zorro was as well. So Bats is not the first rich superhero by far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago If taxes actually went into a big pile of money we set on fire, they would still solve the pollution problem. The pollution solution is to internalize its external cost. permalink fedilink source parent
