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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by sadschmuck@hexbear.net to c/history@hexbear.net

No.

According to a claim circulating online, there is a CIA document or internal communication from the 1950s asserting that Joseph Stalin was not a dictator. The existence of this document is cited as proof either that Stalin was not a dictator after all, or at least that even the CIA didn't think he was. However, looking at the document in question, we see it is not a pronouncement of fact by the CIA whatsoever, but an anecdotal information report submitted to CIA information gatherers. As such, the document is a primary source representing the perspective of one anonymous informant, not the opinion of the CIA as a whole. Additionally, the document is contradicted by dozens of more reliable or detailed documents obtained or created by the CIA in the same period, indicating that they did not believe Stalin was non-dictatorial as claimed.

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[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

[This video is 14min long, 7min long at 2x speed naturally, and easy to listen to at 2x speed]

All this to say, please stop using the CIA report as some sort of proof that Stalin wasn't a dictator. This is an unevaluated antidotal report from one unnamed source, not a statement of fact by the CIA. Even if that was legitimately what the 1950s CIA as a whole believed, which they didn't, that wouldn't sufficiently prove the claim anyway. This report is not the proof you think it is, and the fact that it's been touted as conclusive for so long despite the obvious shortcomings would say more about current research standards than any of the actual realities of Stalin's regime. [emphasis mine]

This is a good video, and this closing statement is a good summarization of why. One of the things that does make this item of agitprop so effective is that it takes a 'trusted source' in the minds of liberals and turns it on them. They have no real pre-programmed response to this kind of message. This, however, will begin to fail to be effective and rightfully paint those who parriot it as shallow agents peddeling in simple misinformation that they themselves cannot even identify. Sources like the ones presented in this video, which effectively state, "The CIA was stairing at a black box, unable to expose it's inner workings, and deriving its function purly from its form," could be more persuasive. It would need to be followed up, however, with more current Soviet archive research.

This report, if anything, is a crutch that should be retired in favor of other more irrefutable documentation.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

To me, it seems like it's still a good piece of agitprop in the beginning, but as communism, anarchism, socialism become more popular and people become more generally knowledgeable about them, then the counter arguments will start to become more sophisticated (like the arguments about the communists stabbing the anarchists in the back during the Russian Revolution or Spanish Civil War). That's when it doesn't look great when you peddle this argument and you get countered without any more to say because you never had to say more than that lol.

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