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Is this the right place for shitlib Lemmy slop? (hexbear.net)
submitted 11 months ago* by to c/slop@hexbear.net
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Post in question: https://lemmy.zip/post/49704665

They also seem to have learned a new word to use instead of "Tankie": ML

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[–] 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Also what is more cult-like?

Identifying a problem with the world and working to try and fix it in a material way? Or ignoring all of reality of worsening conditions and staying in denial, believing that history has ended and heaven has been achieved and everything will be fine if we do nothing?

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    I can't speak for everyone of course but for me at least a big part of why I was attracted to socialism/communism in the first place was the fact that commies really do have the most thorough explanations for everything. Libs can sometimes get close but every problem and solution that they identify falls apart at the some point in a way that marxist ones don't

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    I think this "heaven has been achieved" mindset is missing what's really going. The predominant manifestation of modern day liberalism is a form of nihilism. Sure the world sucks, but under liberal capitalism it sucks less than it otherwise could. The world can't get better because human nature is evil and selfish and any attempts to create a different system will be corrupted. There are scarcely any liberals who will outright say that the current paradigm is good, much less heaven on earth. What they will say is that anything better isn't possible.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    Yeah, Liberalism isn't perfect, it's the "best of all possible worlds." which means we shouldn't challenge it because it will only make things worse. They usually love to quote Churchill on this, because liberals love their great man theory and think that influential people were just all soundbite generators.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago*

    that's what I mean by heaven, I just mean the afterlife that they desire. I don't mean a literal perfect world, but a liberal 'least bad' world. you're right that they're nihilistic, and when pressed hard enough will abandon liberal niceties before they abandon property or position. Still, they think that they are at the end of history. That the apocalypse already came and went, and they were the god chosen victors of it (colonialism and the ongoing horrors of industrialization).

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