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[–] 42 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Hmm this really does seem like the opening salvo in a MAJOR escalation that goes beyond mere words or pandering to the base and sets the groundwork for uh not great things.

The Trump administration isn’t only targeting organizations or groups but even individuals and “entities” whom NSPM-7 says can be identified by any of the following “indica” (indicators) of violence:

  • anti-Americanism,
  • anti-capitalism,
  • anti-Christianity,
  • support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
  • extremism on migration,
  • extremism on race,
  • extremism on gender
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality.

Breaking this down a bit:

  • extremism on migration,

Clearly to go after anyone against deportations, ICE, etc. Even someone just working the policy and judicial angle as say a lawyer who never attends protests would be a dangerous indicator of terrorism under this.

  • extremism on race,

I have to wonder for some of these if it's entirely up to the discretion of the cops doing the work or if there's additional (secret) guidance defining these because on the surface this would certainly seem to suggest support for BLM or anything they deem "anti-white"

  • extremism on gender

As with above I have to wonder if there's additional secret guidance on the meaning of this one. Obviously trans rights activists (including any trans person who isn't constantly denouncing their own existence I presume) would fall under this as would any feminists who are for abortion, are against the traditional 1950s Christian Protestant views on family, etc, etc.

The last three in the list are especially broad, vague, and therefore worrying but seem to reinforce the above and remove doubts about what extremism on race and gender are.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    extremism on race,

    I have to wonder for some of these if it's entirely up to the discretion of the cops doing the work or if there's additional (secret) guidance defining these

    Come on now, you know cops are following us-foreign-policy

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    Make no mistake, anyone showing loyalty to country and her peoples are terrorists to this traitorous regime and their craven underlings.

    They are actively betraying america, and we all know it. We all being we in reality here, the general population might need some time to catch up.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (17 children)
  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    No shit? Show me the good guys in government, and I will show you an exciting investment opportunity sucker.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    I'm not sure what you're trying to say but I'm saying that saying someone is betraying America is not a condemnation.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Is this entire instance tankies? Hexbear?

    I do not know how I keep falling into these freaking discussions completely unaware everyone is just trying to make cheap Western Country bad points while our country's burn as we try to save them.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Hexbear is for leftists. Sure, here's another cheap point for ya: if you love America, you're fucking disgusting.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    If you blame everybody that lives in a country for that country, you are unenlightened.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    If you blame everybody that lives in a country for that country

    https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans

    Fuck Israel and obliterate that entire entity. I remember the megathread cheering on the Iranian missiles!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is really offensive.

    Israel is not a country.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    We should adopt this idea for the US and other colonialist projects and recognize any former government remnants when possible like tribal governments for the 50 states, the DPRK for the US puppet South Korea, etc. as the legitimate government of the entire territory

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    If you blame everybody that lives in a country for that country,

    Of course not. The above commenter was rightfully blaming the genocidal governments of the US as well as their supporters for enabling them

    you are unenlightened.

    Really, you are enlightened? Are you Maitreya, the Buddha of the future, the only enlightened being left on the planet here to save us from checks notes being against genocide?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Is this entire instance tankies? Hexbear?

    Your definition of tankies has expanded to include anarchists and other leftists who support actually existing socialism. It's a cheap buzzword, common amongst shitlibs.

    I do not know how I keep falling into these freaking discussions completely unaware everyone is just trying to make cheap Western Country bad points

    Because you don't know how to look at the instance you're in? cheap "Western Country Bad" is hilarious coming from a western chauvinist.

    our country’s burn

    Less capitalist nations the better! Maybe...maybe they're burning because of the economic system they practice...? I dunno...might be a cheap "western country bad" point...

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    No shit? Show me the good guys in government

    There never is. There is objectively better governments, though. China has a higher protein rate consumption per capita, lower homelessness, higher home-ownership rate and generally a higher standard of life and approval rating for their government. From what I seen of local governance, generally more democratic under a "one-party system" than electing which real-estate crony is going to run your small town next cycle.

    Vietnam, USSR, plenty of socialist examples. You are on a socialist instance, sucker.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Make no mistake, anyone showing loyalty to country and her peoples are terrorists to this traitorous regime and their craven underlings.

    Fascists tend to infight and tear themselves apart. This time it's going to be between different factions of the ruling class; blue or red doesn't matter only ideological principles which tends to be a stark divide between the dying neoliberalism and fundamentalists/new-right that is emerging. In Nazi Germany, plenty of people who were "Loyal" yet not fascist were still supporting an evil entity. The same could be said for America.

    the general population might need some time to catch up.

    That would be the day we see America as it is currently is no longer exists.

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