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[–] 116 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

My initial impression of his writings hit me as either Groyper posing as a leftist, or just an accelerationist psychopath.

Either way, it doesn't change the fact that right-wing extremism makes up the majority of violence.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If the Discord is real, he seemed like a pretty normal guy. Apparently he was bisexual, and his girfriend might've been trans. According to the source at least. I don't know any groypers, so I don't know how they act, but I don't think that they're normally fine with that sort of thing. Somewhere else said that he claimes to have done it to silence the hate that Kirk spewed, which is a fair enough reason I guess. Lots of contradictory info. Maybe he was a groyper that woke up after meeting his girlfriend. Maybe he just did it for attention. Maybe he just snapped. I'm just hoping for the best, that he did it for a decent enough reason, not to start a race war. We might even find out, if he isn't Epsteined.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I saw some of the Discord on Ken Klippensteins website. Are there other links to it that show more conversation?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    No, this is just from what he wrote. Apparently he got a publicly unavailable picture of the two of them as evidence, so it's not impossible that it's real. I think that too many of us might've been a bit too quick to hop on the groyper thing, just because he was online a ton. And someone named Tyler Robinson in the St. George area donated to Trump 5 years ago, when Robinson was 17.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Either way, it doesn't change the fact that right-wing extremism makes up the majority of violence.

    Even if it can be concluded that he acted out of left-wing motivations, his Conservative upbringing led him to react with a right-wing solution.

    Had he been raised a Lefty, he would have been protesting, making phone calls, writing emails, and voting, not shooting.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What exactly makes you say things like that? I'm genuinely curious what part of the discord conversations make people draw these conclusions.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm referring more to the immediate aftermath of the event. I wasn't very clear when I said writings but rather writings on the casings and the immediate reaction of Fuentes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    How a comment that spreads unsubstantiated rumours which this article specifically states as being so is at the top of this thread is beyond me.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Do confirm that you actually believe this is unsubstantiated:

    Either way, it doesn't change the fact that right-wing extremism makes up the majority of violence.

    Now in fairness I'll clarify that I am focusing on politically motivated violence.

    Additionally, did you miss the past tense of the first point?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You admit to not being clear before, that's whats wrong with your comment, don't strawman me lmao. You refer to his writings, which in this context would obviously refer to the Discord conversations this article is about.

    Hundreds of people saw you referring to his writings in your comment, yet only a handful will see this clarification it's about the scribbles on the bullets. That is how unsubstantiated rumours spread.

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