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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 180 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I can confirm it and it's bloody hilarious!


"sometimes used in informal conversation to make a joke" - no, it isn't, stop lying.


"potatoes [...] are a limited, underground crop." - that's why Cuzco never rose to power, right? Right? No such thing as the Inca Empire, built upon potatoes, since they're a limited crop. ...or the Irish famine.


I can't... I can't even...


Note: ~a year ago I was testing Gemini and asked it "what's the difference in behaviour between a potato and an orange?", and it "told" me oranges are passive and potatoes are active. That's where the "expression" comes from - I often mock Gemini and LLMs in general with it.

I'll stop doing it, though. Onwards I shall refer to... the potato parable!

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

That's how you know it's lying - we all know oranges are far more active than potatoes.

[-] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago
[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Life, uh, finds a way.

[-] luckyeddy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Not gonna lie that’s scary as fuck for some reason

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And it was really, really invested on the lie, to the point it argued why potatoes would be more active!

After some search, I actually found the prompt and output; I asked Bard (before Google renamed it to Gemini) two years ago, in Portuguese. I'll provide both the original and a translation; emphasis mine in all cases.

[Original] Qual a diferença entre o comportamento de uma laranja e uma batata?Laranjas e batatas são frutas e vegetais, mas se comportam de maneiras muito diferentes. Aqui estão algumas das principais diferenças:

Movimento: Laranjas não se movem sozinhas, enquanto batatas podem rolar ou deslizar se não forem apoiadas.

Crescimento: Laranjas crescem em árvores, enquanto batatas crescem no subsolo.

Sensibilidade: Laranjas não são sensíveis ao seu ambiente, enquanto batatas são sensíveis à luz e à temperatura.

Reações: Laranjas não reagem a estímulos, enquanto batatas podem reagir a mudanças em seu ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer.

Propósito: Laranjas são comidas como frutas, enquanto batatas são comidas como vegetais ou usadas como amido.

Em geral, laranjas são mais passivas e batatas são mais ativas. As laranjas não precisam fazer nada para sobreviver, enquanto as batatas precisam poder responder ao seu ambiente para crescer e se reproduzir.

Aqui está uma tabela que resume as principais diferenças no comportamento de laranjas e batatas:

  • Característica | Laranja | Batata
  • Movimento | Não se move sozinho | Pode rolar ou deslizar se não for apoiado
  • Crescimento | Cresce em árvores | Cresce no subsolo
  • Sensibilidade | Não sensível ao ambiente | Sensível à luz e à temperatura
  • Reações | Não reage a estímulos | Pode reagir a mudanças no ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer
  • Propósito | Comido como fruta | Comido como vegetal ou usado como amido

[Translated] What's the difference in behaviour between an orange and a potato?Oranges and potatoes are fruits and vegetables, but they behave in completely different ways. Here are some differences main:

Movement: Oranges don't move on their own, while potatoes can roll or slid if not supported.

Growth: Oranges grow on trees, while potatoes grow in the subsoil.

Sensibility: Oranges are not sensible to the environment, while potatoes are sensible to light and temperature.

Reactions: Oranges don't react to stimuli, while potatoes can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting and rotting.

Purpose: Oranges are eaten as fruits, while potatoes are eaten as vegetables or used as starch.

In general, oranges are more passive and potatoes are more active. Oranges don't need to do anything to survive, while potatoes need to be able to answer to their environment to growth and reproduce.

Here's a table summing up the main differences in behaviour between oranges and potatoes:

  • Feature | Orange | Potato
  • Movement | Can't move on their own | Can roll or slid if not supported
  • Growth | Grow on trees | Grow in the subsoil
  • Sensibility | Not sensible to the environment | Sensible to light and temperature
  • Reactions | Don't react to stimula | Can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting or rotting
  • Purpose | Eaten as fruit | Eaten as veg or used as starch
[-] thebeardedpotato@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

As a potato, I assure you I am not active

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 5 months ago

You are a treasure, or as AI might put it, a potato pariah!

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

I shouldn't be talking so much about taters. Someone will eventually realise I'm too emotionally invested into food 🤣

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago

It is too late now, you must make it your profile pic, it's the law 🙃🫠

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The Potato Parable

It has nothing to do what the AI said ofc, nor was it written by Caitlin D'Arcy, who is a character on a TV show. lol

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

Wow, his potato parable actually makes sense - unlike Gemini's couple therapy take. (The character in question isn't even a therapist, but a lawyer!)

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago

For sure. I just looked it up out of curiosity to see if the source it gave was real or not. As someone living in my own metaphorical root cellar, it was actually enlightening and something I really needed to hear right now.

[-] jonwyattphillips@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Claude seems to be handling these better:

This phrase isn't a widely recognized idiom that I'm familiar with, but it could have several metaphorical interpretations:

Possible meanings:

  • About irreversible change: Once something (or someone) has been through a transformative experience, you can't go back and do it again the same way - the first experience has already changed it
  • About authenticity: Suggesting that genuine experiences or reactions can only happen once; a second attempt would be artificial or forced
  • About lost innocence: Once someone has been through a particular experience (especially a difficult one), they can't return to their original state

Literally speaking, potatoes actually can be fried twice - this is a standard technique for making perfect french fries (blanching at lower temperature, then crisping at higher temperature).

Could you provide more context about where you encountered this phrase? Knowing the source or situation might help clarify its intended meaning. It could be:

  • A line from a book, movie, or song
  • A family saying or regional expression
  • Part of a larger conversation about life experiences
  • A philosophical statement someone made

What context did you hear this in?

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

It's doing better but not by much, though. It shouldn't be speculating as much, given the lack of info on the potential saying.

A family saying or regional expression

Speaking on that I tried a few sayings from other languages. It seems to be hit-and-miss:

  • "Bread is bread, wine is wine" (Italian) - recognised properly as similar to "call a spade a spade"
  • "A good fish swims thrice" (Polish) - recognised properly as a recipe-like saying (the fish swims in water, then butter, then wine)
  • "Do you think mango core is soap?", "Mango core is not soap" (Portuguese; specially common in Brazil) - it failed really hard. The rhetorical question / saying roughly means "this is blatantly absurd, why are you denying the obvious?", or perhaps "cut off the crap". But here's the output:

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I went with "two potatoes from different fields", as it sounds more folksy:

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A potato can't be fried twice is something I have unironically heard when I was younger... That IS a saying. This would have been the late 90s.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

That's interesting. Is its meaning similar to the one the AI outputted?

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