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[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

In the most recent video about unions he used Haz's fascist cult as "evidence a 3rd party is viable in the USA" because it has 10k paypigs I mean members, without even mentioning the fascist or culty elements of the ACP. Dumb to use a fascist party as an example of how a 3rd party can be a viable opposition to the status quo that people want to join in the imperial core.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Why would he use ACP over PSL when PSL are larger and anyone paying attention can see that large numbers of protests are being driven by their organising hidden by front orgs?

If Empanada was involved with organising he'd be able to see which org is the authentically impactful one. It's obvious if you've actually been involved in anything.

Obviously he has not though, or else he wouldn't have made "don't join a union".

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

PSL doesn't really use front orgs much. What often happens is that they end up gaining de facto ownership of existing orgs because they always show up and always put in work.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah but that's basically the same thing right? Visually it is anyway.

I know for a fact that a bunch of the Palestine organising was PSL membership organising through different orgs. The email addresses for help with travel were always PSL emails even if the org name for the protest was something else. Most people wouldn't notice but you pick it up if you've been involved in orgs before.

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

I can see the argument, it's just that I've often seen "front orgs" claims used to paint the PSL as insidious and dishonest.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh. Yeah I don't give a shit about that lmao if using a front org is effective for a cause then do eet it's absolutely everywhere in europe to the extent i don't even think anyone even calls them "front orgs" but like... Subsidiaries? Sub-orgs? Affiliate orgs? Child orgs? I dunno I see loads of terms for it. It's all the same shit I just use the most blunt explanation for everything because I'm not about sugarcoating anything.

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