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Technology Connections talks about a red fridge from Walmart for an hour (youtu.be)
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In a video by @Techconnectify@mas.to, Alec goes into a deep dive into the simplicity of his particular model, its shortcomings and variety of data logging tests in an attempt to fix them.

TL,DW: Very simple, cheap and ingenious design, with one compressor loop between the fridge and freezer in series. However, its temperature sensor is wonky and so the fridge is more affected by how long the compressor operates than the actual temperature itself. There is a signficant temperature differential between the top and bottom, fans on the exterior or interior could help but with the faulty sensor only made matters worse. With the controller replaced with a proper temp control unit the fridge functioned much better.

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[–] 0 points 3 years ago (21 children)

I came for the traffic signals. I cringed through the overly-long CED saga. I left after the dishwashers.

I'll still pop in seasonally though, for the latest on proper LED holiday lights.

Dishwashing video #1: Detergent pods must be bad, because dishwashers have a pre-wash dispenser. So if you use pods, you aren't using enough detergent!

Here's my demonstration of how using detergent during pre-wash results in more cleaning occurring during pre-wash (which, you know, isn't the full cycle and isn't how people use dishwashers).

Dishwashing video #2: Actually, I was totally wrong. But detergent pods are still bad, because they result in using too much detergent and are wasteful!

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (20 children)

    @JWBananas @Rentlar @SilentStorms sooo... the follow-up had a very specific point. Many people were getting a residue after trying powder detergent, and I wanted to help with that.

    My main issue with detergent pods isn't so much that they're wasteful, per se, but that they cost a lot more for, potentially, worse results.

    Many dozens of people continue to tell me that trying powder detergent both saved money *and* made their dishwasher work better. I stand by that.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    question.

    It seems you have replied to, and carried on a reply chain with (meaning that presumably notifications went both ways), a user on Kbin from your Mastodon account.

    How on earth do you do that?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I'm probably a bit late to reply, but... He was @ mentioned in the body of the original post, which Mastodon would have notified him of because mas.to is federating. Opening the notification would bring him to this thread on Mastodon, where everything would appear as it normally does when viewing a thread on Mastodon. From there, you can hold a conversation as normal with notifications and all. Unless you were looking at instance URLs, you probably wouldn't even notice the user you're replying to isn't on Mastodon themselves.

    Beauty of federation! It (mostly) just works!

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    That's great that you found something that worked for you and for others. And I respect your stance on cost.

    But it doesn't change the fact that an experiment that only runs through the pre-wash cycle is at best misleading when the results that are important are that of the full cycle. And it also doesn't change my impression that you used a fundamentally flawed experiment to try to make a logical argument, which was then contradicted in your follow-up.

    It's just not a great look.

    If the point of the second video was "I was wrong" (versus "I'm still right but for different reasons") then I probably wouldn't have unsubscribed. Your moving of the goalposts (which just triggers too many memories of growing up with narcissists) just confirms that was a good choice.

    But I do like your content about LED holiday lights, and I will be back to see what you find this season.

    For what it's worth, adding a little citric acid should be more cost effective than putting more detergent in the prewash cup.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (11 children)

    @JWBananas @Rentlar @SilentStorms I fundamentally disagree with the idea that it's misleading.

    I wanted to show that the pre-wash cycle is /important/ - that having detergent in the first rinse actually accomplishes something.

    The main thrust of that video was that detergent packs skip that first step, and what I wanted to show was the value of that first step. If you had a dishwasher that worked fine with pods, there would be no reason to change your habits - and I explicitly said as much

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    @JWBananas

    And truthfully, what I messed up in the first video was not getting into the nuance of water hardness and detergent amounts.

    People who follow the directions on powder to "fill cups completely" are going to be in for a rough time if they have soft water. I didn't get into that, so people started using powder, used too much, and had worse results.

    So I went further, showed how you can actually get away with very little detergent, which imo is yet another reason to prefer powder.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    @JWBananas So yeah, honestly I feel like you're missing most of the context in those videos.

    I never said pacs don't work - I said that I suspect they've led to a lot of dishwasher dissatisfaction, made an argument as to why, and backed that up with a demo of the pre-wash and how, with no detergent in there, more stuff was left on the plates. That then was the starting point for the main wash cycle, and I figured that difference would speak for itself.

    If it didn't, then /that/ was my mistake

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The other guy is totally unnecessarily being a dick, but is perhaps touching upon a good point.

    The prewash stage might have a more effective result if some detergent is put in, but there's no actual value in that if a full main wash without pre-wash detergent results in a completely clean load of dishes.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    @Zagorath I see a lot of detergent products advertising "no pre-wash required" on their packaging, at least here in AU.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    @TechConnectify I think you're missing the part where I didn't like the content, and I don't like you personally, and I unsubscribed. Please stop spamming me.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    @JWBananas @Rentlar @SilentStorms ask and you shall receive, but maybe next time untag me first

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Ignore that jerk. You're great, and your detergent videos explained, in exhaustive detail, (as all of your videos do, because that's literally the whole shtick,) the nuance and context that you were aiming for. Anyone who missed that just wasn't paying attention.

    Also your snarkiness in your videos is amazing and never stop being you.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I didn't fucking tag you in my original post. I don't even know how you found it in the first place. If this is how the fediverse works, that's not good.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Dude what the hell? You posted publicly in a public comment thread and are mad when the person you're talking about responded? You know this could happen on reddit too right? Creators are people too, you absolute dick.

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