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Eyes on the ball, it's the policies that matter. If we start seeing watering down of the policies, shoot away, but this on its own means little.
Dude, it's already over.
Nothing is ever really over. There is always change and we don't know what's gonna happen just what is happening.
And thus Republicans win again.
Thank you leftist purity culture, you truly are the best tool the fascists have.
In what way? He's better than any republican, but he's already playing into DNC's bullshit game by pivoting right.
Is he playing their game or they playing his after the DNC got all those polls that said democrat voters want all the DNC leadership gone?
Yall gotta stop shooting yourselves in the dick every time a braindead DNC goon shows up like its the end of the world. These DNC guys are so dumb they were outsmarted (TWICE!) by Donald Trump who absolutely does not understand how most of his major policies work (tariffs, immigration, etc)
If yall had half the amount of shamelessness that republicans have we'd see people would deliver this media narrative to AIPAC as the DNC "caving to anti Israel" and attempt to cut their funding for the DNC.
Whether or not its true these kinds of things are double edged swords for the DNC and can be used to wedge out AIPAC if you can convince enough of its genocidal supporters to withdraw donations to AIPAC unless the DNC is removed from its payroll.
If AIPAC cuts funding to the DNC that would be a major win even if mamdani loses. This defeatist loser baby shit is why the fascists keep winning. The fascists are dumb and the DNC is even dumber. You don't need to be a brain genius to beat these idiots.
Is he doing that? Or is he just playing politics and trying to maximize his chances of winning the general election? Who are you to say he won't pivot back to the left the instant he gets into office?
The standard Democratic playbook when they do get elected. They practically never actually stay left, and he just enlisted Lerner, Cuomo's guy, who's big into corporate and gig-economy shit.
And? He's not a standard Democrat. This fickle purity testing is why the right keeps winning.
What the fuck is "purity testing"?
I'm complaining about him hiring Lerner. He's playing by standard DNC rules, at best now.
It's what centrists say when people to their left have standards.
He's run a phenomenally lowercase-d democratic and candid campaign. Hiring one experienced DNC Communications chair does not compromise his platform. It might lead to that, but it might not. To judge based purely on that appointment, before anything has actually happened, is 100% purity testing.
So losing faith that a candidate is going to stick by his word is now something called "purity testing"?
Your faith is your business. Barking the failings of the lesser evil, in the wave of greater evil, with no good strong enough to replace them. Yeah, that's purity testing.
The lesser evil keeps getting more evil.
Because "is already over" means he's not good enough for the left. So they'll stay home and stomp their feet like they did in November. And he'll lose.
I guess if that's what you want to read into what I said. There's just no reason to think he's gonna be any better than a bog standard Democrat anymore, is all.
You're saying that moving to the right will lose elections.
THATS NOT WHT THE FUCK IT MEANS
That's what I understood it to mean. So then tell me, what does it mean?
It means that he's going to make himself beholden to donors like every establishment Dem does so even if all the leftists vote for him they're not going to get what they voted for thanks to The Machine. He absolutely positively should NOT do ANYTHING that is geared towards trying to woo the Establishment. AOC didnt do it, along with several others. He is WINNING; there is NO reason to change tactics. Besides, he's running for Mayor. There is no reason to involve any "advisors" from old national races that are irrelevant now.
That's my point, and also the mistake. I'm a first past the post system, you don't vote FOR anything. You vote AGAINST the worst candidate. Not voting is the same as voting for the worst because it moves the goal posts closer.
So until people understand that, there's no help in highlighting flaws in Democrat candidates. It only scares off the people who don't understand FPTP.
This message brought to you by the second worst party. By as thin a margin as they think they can get away with.
Its actually borne out by the statistics. Generally few people get what they want in FPTP but the public can often avoid what it doesnt want as long as there's not a 3rd party. The major problem is donors pick the party candidates in both parties unless more people start voting in primaries.
If you watched the dem primary in NY you saw the difference in tone for a ranked choice election. Politicians can win in platforms there because RCV can actually deliver popular candidates.
I do think it works better if people retaliate against senators and house reps for specific votes rather than party vibes. You want the politicians afraid to vote against the public not riding poll numbers on seats.
Have fun voting for second worst every time as they keep chasing fascists to the right, then.
So you're saying both parties suck, and also agree with the fact that our current voting system holds us hostage?
I'm 100% with you. And until we get ranked choice voting, we hold our nose and vote Democrat to reduce how big of a shaft is rammed into our minority friends and family.
As they sprint to the right and throw our minority friends and family under the bus for the glorious privilege of gaining zero republican votes. And then they blame the left for the results of their complicity with fascists.
But I can't dare gripe about it, ostensibly because it HeLpS tHe RePuBliCanS, but in all cases it's really because centrists don't want any criticism as they move so far to the right that they're supporting genocide.
So you're saying it doesn't help the Republicans?
I'm saying that centrists already help the republicans.
But god fucking forbid someone to their left have any criticism whatsoever.
You don't care about a goddamned thing except securing the silence of the left.
I care about securing the success of the Democrats. Anything else is securing l ensuring success of Republicans. It's literally two choices. You don't get a good one. You hope to reject the worse one.