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From https://aoav.org.uk/2023/an-analysis-of-the-7th-of-october-2023-casualties-in-israel-as-a-result-of-the-hamas-attack
Yes, 66% is awfully high(, and focusing on attacking military bases would have been suicide, i've also heard about the Hannibal directive, and if i stopped speaking in relative numbers i also know that palestinians were/are clearly at a loss in absolute terms under the law of retaliation), but since that's the threshold given to distinguish between a terrorist and a military operation, then Israel is a terrorist nation by its own standards. Not that anyone cares about giving an official definition to distinguish between a terrorist and a soldier/'resistance fighter'.

Some definitions don't even refer to a ratio civilians//military, and would make Israel #2 behind the US :

See also the U.S. definitions, it's not as if we had many laws against terrorists anyway(, domestic or not, they rarely make a distinction, Palestine Action didn't even hurt anyone).
I've also heard that it's the way that the murders are made, as if money mattered and using tanks&planes was more civilized.

I couldn't find an exhaustive data from Iran or Lebanon, but the majority of the victims were civilians :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iran%E2%80%93Israel_war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon

Shameless israeli fuckers, try to justify that they couldn't wait until their target leave the crowd, not that they haven't done worse, they're killing ~100 people every day so it's just one event among others :

https://www.telesurenglish.net/israeli-strike-on-aid-queue-in-deir-al-balah-kills-16-including-10-children

Nothing would surprise me/us anymore, they're not humans :

ramblings

It's so useless to throw accusations, nobody cares if the accusation of terrorism are legitimate or if it's just one more hypocrisy on our never-ending list. I don't know what to do, how can nations just stand there watching ? Couldn't they at least apply economic pressure for the symbol ? It honestly feels as if they have accepted what's ahead, as if they dont believe that Israel could change its mind with enough pressure from them.
If they succeed then in the future they'll still have to get rid of the current extremists in the israeli government and (c)overtly support more humanist elected officials, as well as less psychopathic israeli medias. Israel won't change its path by anything else than brute force, at least Russia acted according to the will of the local population as well as in consequence to western interferences etc., Israel has no other excuses than their greed and their mistaken pretext that "you just can't live with palestinians", something already discussed abundantly.
There's no love, Yunus Emre was/is right, those that don't love can't be religious. You can still kill others while loving them(, less than the ones/causes you're protecting,) and that would lead to different wars than if you're hating them.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

2 civilian to 1 military target would put the IDF to shame. Even that 2 to 1 ratio is debatable given the use of the hannibal directive. They kill upwards of 100 civilians if not more for every 1 military personal they kill. So what they are really trying to do is wipe out the population. Killing the elders of a society is an attack on their history, killing the children is an attack on their future.

Gaza is one of the oldest cities in the world. As such an attack on it, is an attack on our history. Demolishing is destructive, but the threat of building over it is worse. To destroy all data on a hard drive, wipe is not quite enough, the bits are still there, their just writable. To really destroy the data it needs to be over written. That is what is scheduled for Gaza. It must be stopped. The halting of allowing schools to teach about slavery and the destruction brought down upon the people in the Americas before Columbus, is yet another attack on our history. This is what I mean when I say it an attack on our past.

Killing of children is a blatant attack on the future. Everything that is happening in the West bank and in Gaza could be used in case of an US civil war or even the threat of one. Eric Garner died from US police using IDF tactics. All of their tactics come back on us. Kilmar Garcia's detainment and punishment are likewise evidence of IDF tactics used here. They are attacking our future.

The attack on Palestine is aimed at not just destroying humanity, but erasing it. If it can happen there, it can happen anywhere. Hope is not lost. Humanity is being attacked by extensional capitalist threat. The easiest way for a capitalist to increase the exchange value of a commodity is to eliminate the rest of the providers of said commodity. The Capitalist attack on Palestine is a naked attack of capitalism against humanity. Capitalism will erase humanity if left unchecked.

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