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[-] [email protected] 74 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If this is true, the EU better be figuring out how to change that price calculus for them.

Which makes me doubt an open admission actually did happen, since China would understand the possibility for blowback.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I used to joke that China wants to trade Ukraine for Taiwan, now it is very clear: you shut up about helping/recognizing/arming Taiwan and we keep a leash on russia...until next time...

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Taiwan for Ukraine would actually be a trade worth considering for Europe. The major problem, besides values like freedom and democracy, international law, is the interruption of supply lines from Taiwan caused by a Chinese takeover.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Trade worth considering for Europe. Huh. So fuck the Taiwanese, if that's good for Europe?

This kind of thinking by Westerners is why "multipolar world" as a concept is so popular.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Multipolar world exactly means abandoning Taiwan. It means everyone for themselves.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

No. Multipolar means everyone can have multiple independently powerful allies/enemies. It means India, ASEAN, etc. being powerful enough to step in and help ROC when westerners decide to abandon it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

India and ASEAN have no credible power projection capabilities to do anything for Taiwan. ASEAN is primarily an organization for economic cooperation.

Multipolar means strong countries get to bully their neighbors without repercussions.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

In a multipolar world they will have credible power projection capabilities.

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