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[-] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago

Seems a bit much to label them as terrorist but they've done a lot of vandalism on various companies. Seems their MO is to find a target rationalize how it's somehow tangentially associated with Israel and then break some shit.

They crossed a line when they did this to a military base and vandalized some RAF planes. They had some weirdo rationalization for this, but forgot to rationalize how this kind of thing will help anyone in Gaza. They seem to be just breaking things to get attention for themselves.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

They crossed a line when they did this to a military base...

They didn't cross the line into terrorism, though. Yes, they are criminals, no, they are not terrorists. It's an incredibly important distinction. By definition, they are not terrorists:

criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages...

-definition of terrorism, UN resolution 1566

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

The UK parliament is sovereign, not the UN. So how the UN defines things isn't relevant.

Also the law is meant to prevent terrorism. While I don't agree with the designation in this case, I can understand the concern around how this group is escalating their attacks. There's this "globalize the intifada" stochastic terrorism going around and the Iranian regime (the ultimate source of most of this shit) just got it's ass handed to them and may be looking to do something to show their people they're still "strong".

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Since the UK signed the UN charter in 1945, it might behoove us to conform to their definitions unless, of course the UK parliament has agreed on a different definition for terrorism?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

You don't see the connection with the air force? The military? Are you dense? Tell me you at least understand why they did Elbit and Thales...

[-] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago

The RAF isn't part of the IDF last I checked.

Doing these kinds of stunts based on weird tangential connections does not gain any support for a cause. In fact it just turns people against it. This kind of thing is done purely to improve these people's standing within the cause, but doesn't further the cause itself. It's just narcissistic attention seeking behaviour.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nonsense. "This kind of thing" won women the vote and got us a weekend.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Those movements succeeded because they were lead by people that has clear goals and were able to make plans. They weren't random people just doing random acts of vandalism to get monetization from tech bro billionaires.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Palestine Action has clear goals though.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah their goal is to get attention for themselves (and probably social media monetization and donations from suckers) by acting like vandalism will have any real effect on anything.

Like what else could their actions ever possibly accomplish?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Well instead of guessing incorrectly, you could do a very small amount of research and find out!

As mentioned, direct action historically has produced results via political pressure.

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