All from in this thread in [email protected] about a chant at a British music festival where an artist said "death, death to the IDF".
After other users were quoting that chant in the comments and had comments removed and banned, the hero of our story, @[email protected] (appearing as "acargitz") pointed out that under international law, fighting an occupying force is legitimate. But apparently not under world news rules, as their removed comments and the many explanations from mods make clear in the thread.
Equally against the rules is the call for the eradication of an organisation or business, even without an explicit call to violence against individual members of the business.
In the same thread: user @[email protected] had comments removed for being anti-American "(again)", though I couldn't see the first time. It's not even clear to me how the removed comments were anti-American.
Bonus points for the "DC Comics" removal reason. Though this seems to be incompetence, rather than malice.
Me:
Hi, my comments were deleted in politics for “internet slap fighting.” I read the rules of that community and don’t see “arguing” as a rule violation. I also find the term “slap fight” to be extremely sexist especially directed at me as a woman, especially since it’s not mentioned in your rules and the mod used that term on their own. I don’t see where I violated the rules with those comments. Please reinstate my comments, and please fire the mod who is abusing their power to be sexist against women with opinions.
Linebreak Me to outrageousmatter (refused to answer bc he is a coward too)
Hi, my comments were deleted in politics for “internet slap fighting.” I read the rules of that community and don’t see “arguing” as a rule violation. I also find the term “slap fight” to be extremely sexist especially directed at me as a woman, especially since it’s not mentioned in your rules and the mod used that term on their own. I don’t see where I violated the rules with those comments. Please reinstate my comments, and please fire the mod who is abusing their power to be sexist against women with opinions. In light of recent civil rights erosion towards women, and how few openly woman users there are on Lemmy, having a sexist mod in charge of a politics community is completely unacceptable.
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Your continual back and forth with “Soup” (btw, how funny is that statement out of context? Arguing with Soup? It’s like the “women lauging at salad” meme) wasn’t productive or healthy for either of you or for the group.
Not picking sides, just removed all of it.
Linebreak Me: if mods can just remove comments based on whims? Is that fair or just?
I think what I said was very well reasoned and made two great points. Arguments are learning opportunities for everyone. Besides, my argument with them finished yesterday and these comments were removed today. We hadn’t kept on arguing.
I can understand removing comments in arguments that violate rules. Eg me calling him a coward directly. I get that, that should be removed. But even in your own community’s rules, it says we can insult an idea or policy, just not a person. I don’t think it’s appropriate to unilaterally delete comments that don’t violate rules. It tends to suppress the speech of people who are marginalized and not status quo thinkers.
Thank you for your response.
(His response was to refuse to reinstate my comments which were productive and deserve to be heard, but gotta protect other men (I was arguing with a sexist who lost the argument), huh, while making jokes and laughing about my entire gender losing rights. I genuinely hope he gets ass cancer and shits blood).
Well thats just rude. What did ass cancer do to deserve that? Those cells were differentiating, becoming less like him.
It's more the psychological aspect of worrying every time he takes a shit and having to get colonoscopies to find out if he's dying or not
So you think ass cancer is just something that exists to be sacrificed for the sake of your insurgency?
Thank you madame cia director, for your clarification.
I think ass cancer is something that exists to karmically haunt dicks like you
I think ass cancer has a vibrant and potentially eternal life, and that ass cancer's best revenge will be outliving you.
Also, one of the very few cancers I'm not at elevated risk for. Sorry. It's gotta get in line.
I do agree with your general sentiment upthread, i just don't love the splash damage to ass cancer.
Your cancer is part of you and not a separate entity though. It isnt autonomous. Anyone who eats processed meat like bacon is at risk of ass cancer.
Wow. Okay. And children are property, yeah?
The concept of 'self' as coherent cohesive essential entity that responds to a coherent cohesive essential will located strictly on one side of the blood-brain barrier is a grand font of misperception and terrible ideas. 'Your' hands are very slightly autonomous, if not necessarily competent.
Even before rfkjr gutted the usda, i only ate about as much meat as an undisciplined vegan who doesnt know how to cook.
Now i think it's been a couple months. I am, however, at elevated risk for breast skin lung throat various blood cancers...
Lol holy fuck men CANNOT GRASP autonomy at all, can they????
You seriously don't understand tbe difference between a non-autonomous fetus, an autonomous child, and a non-autonomous tumor?
Lol see my very first sentence my god
If you cut off a hand or otherwise separate it from the body, is it able to function autonomously?
Also the mind/brain split is an idea from like Descartes and old religions and isn't scientifically based and in fact Sapolsky and others assert that it is kinda arbitrary. Like yeah there's a blood brain barrier but if I cut off your hand, you will have brain damage from it and some people even get phantom limb syndrome. You are your whole physical body and maybe a little beyond that due to electron exchange. In generally, anatomically a lot of borders are more ambiguous than you'd realize, especially bc of the microbes and chemicals that interact with our tissues.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4muob
I could tell you more about cancer but tbh you're a self proclaimed misogynist so I won't, I will help you out as much as your kind helps me.
Any amount of processed meat raises your risk of ass cancer, over your life time.
https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/cancer-carcinogenicity-of-the-consumption-of-red-meat-and-processed-meat
I feel like you're not going unhinged enough to be funny but still getting enough facts wrong that i can't argue with you seriously. Keeping your balance with a foot on either side of that line is challenging; even i stumble sometimes.
Would you like to try again? Maybe i can delete this comment and you can imply all sorts of stuff i said in this comment, get really deranged with it, then I'll either delete or edit it? The only request here is that you don't misgender me unless you misgendering people is part of the bit. Im totally willing to be a rabid misogynist and schlafly the fuck out of this though; my character in this bit is up to you.
What fact exactly have I gotten wrong? How can I try again if you can't refute anything or even point out an error?
You want to delete the comment because it looks bad because you are threatening me with misogynistic abuse. Oh, but that's me being a "hysterical" "deranged" woman, and no no, that wasn't a sexist ad hominem by you either, and you'll become sexist soon if my behavior forces you to do it, but you definitely arent one now /s. Like "you made me hit you" vibes.
This comment chain is the ass cancer chain, it has nothing to do with misgendering iirc. I have no problem using the same rhetoric abusers use against the abuser using it - eg if you're a homophobe, that tells me the thing to bully you about is being gay and I have no problem doing it. Same with misogyny- that means you are insecure in your gender and fear being a woman, the thing you pick on. Ableism - well, that shows that YOU think YOU are stupid/deranged/crazy. Rubber, glue. The name for this technique is called mirroring and it's nearly the only way to get narcissists, including gender narcissists, to change their feelings about being abusive and to get them to develop empathy.
So how about you join us, fellow women. That's why misogynists don't like misgendering (which they do to women all the time, it isnt about being prosocial or fair or philosophically consistent), it reveals their deepest insecurities - that they may be WOMANLIKE, AAAAAAH!!!!! And it invites empathy for the experience of a woman and a dislike of misogynistic insults.
So please, gender bend and learn a little. Go wear drag. Try a new pronoun for a minute. Discover what being a woman is like in 2025.
Eta: I was so on the money with this that this commenter decided to (1) DM me (2) go on a weird tirade (see below) (3) fantasize about how he would act if he was me, a woman (4) wants to delete both messages so others can't see that misogynists simply want to be women and how pathetic and evil he is all because he is too cowardly to wear a dress and makeup. Lol
Him-
Note (to delete later) i would advise you not attempt to straddle the line. Too little irony poisoning, too much ego, not enough sympathy for the devil, too much earnest regard for people-as-people, maybe not enough disassociation. Ill put the real response down later, when this damn sobriety lets up. Also maybe delete the response to what i actually said in my previous comment; lets really turn this up to eleven. Give me a character to work with, here.
Yeah you as a man have the ultimate view on how a woman should behave, huh? Lol. What brand of tampon should I insert next? I'm sure you think about how women should behave a lot because you, like all misogynists, desperately want to be a woman. Thats literally why you feel entitled to tell me what to do, because you fantasize about what YOU would do if YOU were me. Lol.
Okay girl, go with some kind of drag character. Be a woman. No one is stopping you. Pretend you have tits. Message men on Tinder. Go off
Sure, yes, as a man with my fleshy human penises, partial baldness, and glorious moustache across my chest. As that thing, i would like to tell you what to do.
I attempted to disguise myself as a woman once. People just screamed, like they had never seen a uterus before or something. It was puzzling behavior.
Glad you were brave enough to admit it 👍 I recommend Ru Paul's Drag Race, Dragula, or any of these shows below for tips on how to dress to help you feel more feminine:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragrace/comments/1fzifd3/drag_competition_shows_that_arent_dr/
You can totally keep your mustache too if you want.
Like i said, they are shocked and appalled at my form. So much that you would think they had never seen a uterus before. It was very disappointing. They screamed at the mere suggestion of an ovipositor unbalancing my gorget.
I see, and so because you're uggo you have to be mean to women above you?
Oh, wow. I get it. This is an ad. A really campy ad.
Lol whatever excuse you need to come up with, I guess
Yes, thank you for understanding.
🤣🤣🤣
Literally a tagline on the Tesseract front for dbzer0. Congrats on being infamous.
Obsessed with a hate sub because I'm a woman who talks about feminism. Pretty aure I wrote that about women's right to vote being actively taken away and men not standing up for our rights. May it feel like spit on your face every time you read it. May the shame imbed into you.
Here's some other quotes you can have of mine, you small dicked weasel
https://lemmy.world/post/21587225/13262257
https://lemmy.world/post/20333160/12637526
https://lemmy.world/post/19201830/12103781
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13344248
I hope all abusive, misogynistic men hate me. I certainly hate them. May you all get ass cancer.
Ok.
Ok.
Good girl
Misgendering as an insult? Coolio.
Please, yes, mansplain to me how being misgendered online is bad. As a woman, I've never been called a man online. Go ahead
That's sexist.
Bad girl.
I would say you’re probably fun at parties, but I think we both know nobody is inviting you anywhere, are they?
Awww, a brat mad that I said bad girl. You have to earn the good girls with good behavior. Tantrums are not good behavior.
You’re not nearly smart enough to say something to make me mad. In fact, we’ve had a few chuckles over your bizarre behavior. Which is why we added you to the Tesseract front page of the dbzer0 instance, an honor reserved for only the funniest shit we find.
You keep doing you, I’m a big fan of how you’re dealing with whatever this is.
You mean you formed a group to online stalk people because you have a personality disorder and are a misogynist with no life. That's not clearly psychopathic and diagnosable /s lol my word. You effortlessly make yourself known as a creepy predator.
Why is it funny that a woman whose rights were taken away by men is angry at men?
Oh shit, you're on to me now.
One thing I'm curious about, why did you name yourself after an erotic book from the Elder Scrolls? That supposed to be some sort of irony, or did it happen before you ended up like this?
It's actually a play, and in 'morrowind' i think you can get the writer to be your patron in the merchant great house by helping him organize a theatrical run of it.
Thats like saying 'romeo and juliet' is a book. Fuck you, respect art.
Hmm. I prefer my art AI generated.
It's not art, it's (created) images. There didnt used to be a way to create images without making art, but we invented that, and language hasn't caught up yet.
It's not AI though. Please dont call it that. That's gonna come off as so fucking bigoted and cringe if we ever manage to make people (or something similar) out of the thinking sand.
You have to pay me first if you want emotional intimacy and bonding from me
disengage.
Do you have receipts for that? That's really fucked up if he does.
Here's some screencaps, they read bottom to top
He is a petulant little child. Like a mini-Trump.
JordanLund is only mad at Trump because he's a Republican. If he was a slightly better looking Democrat he'd support his polices.
Exactly, I've literally argued with him that Clinton was a bad person, with connections to Epstein and who denigrated her husband's abuse victims, who literally stole our right to vote from us by paying off the DNC for an unfair election primary (admitted to in court). And if she was a feminist (and not an asshole gaining benefits from feminism while pulling up the ladder behind her), then she would support medical care for all, which she explicitly doesn't. Getting women healthcare is one of the most feminist things a person can do and it is quite basic and goes back thousands of years.
He got really mad about that.
I'm not shocked at all that he supports Clinton despite the history of him and his wife.
Narcissism gonna narcissism
I can't find the deleted comments bc he later permabanned me for this (below) post, which also doesn't violate any rules (all sources are reputable)- https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373
What I posted above is literally a copy+paste of my DMs, I can post a screencap of it