I opened Spotify this morning to be greeted by a modal popup with a "sponsored recommendation".

Why am I seeing ads if I'm already paying for the premium plan!? 😑

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[–] 31 points 3 years ago (46 children)

Spotify is garbage. You pay them to basically pirate unlimited music (they pay table scraps). They have no values or integrity, but they do have a greedy business model.

I buy albums off bandcamp instead. Or from the artist's site directly.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (17 children)

    A bit difficult if you want to just stream random music that somehow matches your interests.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    There's other streaming services. I'd recommend any over Spotify.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Which one do you prefer / recommend?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    I've been enjoying apple music on Android (the audacity, I know) mainly for family plan convenience. I used to use Tidal, back when it was the only one offering higher quality audio. Now that's more common.

    However I do miss a few things from Tidal. It had full credits for albums and songs like a CD would have had. And when you're on a track and go to the artist it will let you pick which one you want if there's features or a collab. Apple Music will just automatically take you to the page of the first artist listed. So that's something to consider especially if you're into hip-hop.

    There's many options though and they pretty much all pay artists more than Spotify does too.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    If you're going to p1r@te, you don't have to pay sp0tify to do it...

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    That doesn't really fix the "somehow matches your interests" part of their need. Your torrent software isn't able to track your listening habits and recommend things that other people with similar habits also liked.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    I’m not going to deal with a seed box and a ton of pain in the ass steps in between to listen to music. I’d rather pay Spotify or Amazon or Google or any of the other providers because of the convenience factor.

    Also owning music isn’t something I particularly care about. Games, maybe, but music is so broad that I’ll just listen to something else.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (7 children)

    WTF is a seedbox?

    I have no trouble listening to unlimited music, it's literally everywhere.

    Plus it's not just about owning the album (although I absolutely insist on listening on whichever device I choose). It's also about paying the artist.

    Sp0tify pays peanuts. When I buy the album from the band's site or bandcamp they get a hell of a lot more money from me. And I want to support them.

    You cannot support any artist through Spotify.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    How I have to torrent cause my isp will cancel service over it.

    If you’re pirating you’re not paying the artist at all. Spotify is better than pirating.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    I don't pirate. I buy albums.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    You’re advocating for piracy explicitly

    If you're going to p1r@te, you don't have to pay sp0tify to do it...

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I'm advocating using Bandcamp where the artist actually gets paid. Spotify is piracy, and I'm discouraging that.

    Go to bandcamp and buy the actual album.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, that’s not happening. I can’t afford to pay thousands of dollars a month for music. I’m going to continue using Spotify because at the end of the day it’s not my responsibility to determine how much the artists get paid. There’s a bunch of problems I care about, this isn’t one of them.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Well at least you're honest about not caring about the artists.

    Edit: but you could make a point of buying a couple albums per month if you listen to that much music.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I generally buy merch from the small bands I like, and the rest are multimillionaires already.

    While I listen to a wide variety of music, it tends to be popular music from a wide range of times where they’ve already made a lot from it.

    But also, yes, there’s a level of convenience I’m not willing to give up. When an artist pulls their music from Spotify, I tend to just not listen to them, through no fault of their own, but it’s where I listen to everything else.

    I’m trying YouTube music out since it’s theoretically a bit better and I already pay for YouTube premium.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Bandcamp is DRM-free, so whatever you buy there, you truly own it. Unlike on most other platforms.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    DRM-protected music stores went extinct over a decade ago, following Steve Jobs' open letter to the music industry on the topic. By 2009, iTunes music was completely DRM-free and alternative stores had to follow suit to remain competitive.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Wow, you are right! I was confused about iTunes, because it seems to require an app, but it is DRM-free and so is Amazon Music. That's great! So I guess only Spotify has DRM.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    All the streaming services use DRM, it’s just download stores that are DRM-free. Which makes sense, when you buy an album, you should own it.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    It's personally a catch 22 for me.

    I listen to an absolutely absurd amounts of different artists. A large portion of them simply don't have albums available for purchase and if they did... I would actually go broke buying all the stuff I listen to.

    Every single day I type in a Combo of 2 random letters and numbers into spotify and listen to the first artist I don't recognize.

    It really sucks that Spotify doesn't pay the artists anything reasonable but I haven't found an alternative that allows me to consume as much different music as I currently do.

    This isn't even including the podcasts and audio books into the equation.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Honestly it's a shame that most good music pirating sites have gone to the shitter, literally the only way to actually pirate and own music I could find via searching vigorously was through youtube to MP3 converters.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (15 children)

    Greedy business model seems slightly unfair tbh. Spotify struggles to remain profitable and they’ve only raised their prices by like $1 in a decade

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Maybe they shouldn't've thrown so much money into the pivot to podcasts, then thrown a bunch of money at that meathead idiot.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (6 children)

    Yeah that $100 billion they gave Joe Rogan is where your payments go.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    they didn't give Joe Rogan 100 billion dollars you dunce.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I think it was 1000000 trillion bazillion dollars, you drooling braindead goon.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This comment says a lot more about you than it does about me.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Just because they're incompetent doesn't mean they're not greedy.

    Also, executives can still be cleaning up even as the company struggles to profit.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Executives being greedy isn't the same as a greedy business model

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This makes no sense. Greedy execs are the ones who would implement a greedy business model to pursue their greed.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    What part of the executive compensation package are you taking specific issue with exactly? From what I could see, they're largely paid in stock and the CEO hasn't taken a bonus since COVID.

    Or are you just talking executives in general and not looking at what Spotify does specifically?

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