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On X11 and the Fascists Maggots (blogs.gnome.org)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

Fascists and Nazis
Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
“Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Now I hate Gnome

But:

Harrassing the creators is cringe, even if they make (undeniably-very-competently-made-but-by-virtue-of-dumb-choices-rendered-into) bad computer programmes
Wayland is good actually, Gnome or otherwise.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Gnome programs, and Gnome itself, is pretty great.

You don't have to shit on a project just because you don't use their stuff or like something else.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Gnome in general is undeniably made competently by competent and talented people. If it wasn't, it would break a lot more.

Those competent and talented people also managed to make extremely bad choices at every turn, and seem ideologically opposed to the idea of customization, resulting in an environment that is fundamentally painful to use unless you very specifically fit the box of what they expect users to be like.

It sort of feels like an Apple product, in that sense. Very well-made, but god forbid you don't want to do things exactly as they say you should

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

My feelings exactly, stated a lot better than I could have managed.

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