AI solves every river crossing puzzle, we can go home now [content warning: botshit] (gemini.google.com)

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I think this summarizes in one conversation what is so fucking irritating about this thing: I am supposed to believe that it wrote that code.

No siree, no RAG, no trickery with training a model to transform the code while maintaining identical expression graph, it just goes from word-salading all over the place on a natural language task, to outputting 100 lines of coherent code.

Although that does suggest a new dunk on computer touchers, of the AI enthusiast kind, you can point at that and say that coding clearly does not require any logical reasoning.

(Also, as usual with AI it is not always that good. sometimes it fucks up the code, too).

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'd say that incredibly unlikely unless an LLM suddenly blurts out Tesla's entire self-driving codebase.

The code itself is probably among the least behind-a-moat things in software development, that's why so many big players are fine with open sourcing their stuff.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pre-LLM, I had to sit through one or two annual videos to the sense of “dont cut and paste from open source, better yet don’t even look at GPLd code you arent working on” and had to do a click test with questions like “is it ok if you rename all the variables yes no”. Ohh and I had to run a scanning tool as part of the release process.

I don’t think its the FSD they would worry about, but GPL especially v3. Nobody gives a shit if it steals some leetcode snippet, or cuts and pastes some calls to a stupid API.

But if you have a “coding agent” just replicating GPL code wholesale, thousands and thousands of lines, it would be very obvious. And not all companies ship shitcode. Apple is a premium product and ages old patched CVEs from open source cropping up in there wouldn’t be exactly premium.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I too love to reminisce over the time (like 3m ago) when the c-suite would think twice before okaying uploading whatever wherever, ostensibly on the promise that it would cut delivery time (up to) some notable percentage, but mostly because everyone else is also doing it.

Code isn't unmoated because it's mostly shit, it's because there's only so many ways to pound a nail into wood, and a big part of what makes a programming language good is that it won't let you stray too much without good reason.

You are way overselling coding agents.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Its not about moats, it's about open source community (whose code had been trained on) coming out with pitchforks. It has nothing to do with moats.

You are way overselling coding agents.

Re-creating some open source project with a similar function is literally the only way a coding agent can pretend to be a programmer.

I tried latest models for code and they are in fact capable of shitting out a thousand lines of working code at a time, which obviously can only be obtained via plagiarism since they are also incapable of writing the most trivial code for a novel situation. And the neat thing about plagiarism is that once you start you can keep going since there's more of compatible code where it came from.

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